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📕 Part 1: Coins

Maria and Rory discuss the death of physical money. Is it just a heavy load of metal? Rory reveals his secret collection and strongly warns Maria against making a terrible pun in her exam.

Maria & Rory

· 12 min read

This episode’s vocabulary

Note

noun — a piece of paper money.

To superse

verb — to replace something, especially something older or more old-fashioned.

Cashless

adj. — using or operating with credit and debit cards and electronic systems, not money in the form of coins or notes.

Currency

noun — the money that is used in a particular country at a particular time.

To haul

verb — to pull something heavy slowly and with difficulty.

Via

preposition — by way of, or by use of.

Pocket money

noun — an amount of money that parents regularly give to their child to spend as they choose.

Allowance

noun — money that you are given regularly, especially to pay for a particular thing.

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📕 Part 1: Coins
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Questions and answers

Maria

Do you use coins in your daily life?

Rory

If I'm honest, I can barely recall the last time I used notes in my country, let alone metal coins. It's all been superseded by cashless payments these days.

Maria

Do you often carry coins with you?

Rory

Not really, aside from when I'm on holiday, and I always seem to get them back whenever I use paper currency.

Maria

Have you ever collected coins?

Rory

I have, and I still do, from the different countries I've been to over the years. I have cedi from Ghana and dollars from the US, and now soms from Kyrgyzstan, just to name a few. It's a nice little souvenir that costs next to nothing and doesn't take up too much space in my luggage.

Maria

Is it convenient to use coins?

Rory

Not these days, unless cashless payments aren't an option. Why would you haul around a load of metal with you when you can just pay for everything via credit or debit card? There's not much point in it, at least in the short term.

Maria

Did you use coins as a child?

Rory

Definitely more compared to now. I think we were given one pound a week as pocket money or an allowance. It's not worth much now, but back then, for a child that would buy you a lot of things to make your weekend more fun.

Discussion

Maria

Right, dear listener, coins. What a topic! Like when was the last time you held a coin in your hand, dear listener? Actually, today, I found a bag full of coins, and I was thinking, well, I should use them to buy maybe like an ice cream or some chewing gum, just, you know, to pay for everything with these coins, just to get rid of them. Yeah, dear listener, so coins. If you don't remember when you last had coins in your hand, well, this is for you to lie, to imagine, or just to tell the truth, like, I never use coins and explain why. It's also okay. So we say coins, and the paper money, we call them notes. Can I say bank notes?

Rory

You could say bank notes. I think most people just call it notes these days or call them notes.

Maria

Yeah. So paper money, notes. Coins are coins, like metal coins. And you can say, like, if I'm honest, like, come on, examiner, I want to be honest with you. I want to tell you the truth. So you say, if I'm honest, I can barely recall, I can barely remember the last time I used notes or coins. Barely? Like, oh, hardly like, I can't even remember. Okay? And dear listener, we pronounce coins. Rory, how do you say coins?

Rory

Coins.

Maria

Yeah, because... And maybe in your language, it's like coins. No, coins. Coins. Say it, say it now, dear listener, after me, coins, coins. So metal coins, and we use metal coins, and we don't use notes, for example. Use is the verb. And what's this verb? It's all been superseded.

Rory

Oh, superseded just means it's been replaced by something better. Well, at least in theory, cashless payments that you make with your various cards or with your phone are better than carrying metal coins with you. So most people do that in my country. So it's been superseded.

Maria

Supersede, dear listener. A verb. To replace something, especially something older or more old-fashioned with something new. What could be superseded?

Rory

Well, landline. Landline telephones have been superseded by mobile phones, mostly.

Maria

Yeah, or replaced, if you want. We say cashless payments, dear listener. So no notes, no coins, everything is, you know, online, we don't see the real money anymore, so cashless, no cash. And we also can say, pay by cash or use cashless payments. Make cashless payments. Rory, do you use your phone to make a payment? Just like, you know, you touch it like...

Rory

I don't but I'm seriously thinking that I might start doing that.

Maria

And what do you call it in English when you go like... And money is gone.

Rory

Oh, it's just tapping your phone. Contactless. Make a contactless payment.

Maria

Yeah. Contactless payment, dear listener. We don't even need cards anymore. We carry coins. So I carry coins. Well, I don't carry. I kind of have them with me. Or I can have coins in my... Where? Where do I usually keep coins?

Rory

In your wallets if you're a man, and in your purse if you're a lady.

Maria

Exactly. Yeah, maybe in your pocket. And no, we usually don't. Well maybe, do you, dear listener, do you carry coins with you? When I'm on holiday, yeah, when I change money. And then I'm stuck with all these coins, I bring them home.

Rory

And then never use them again.

Maria

Exactly. I prefer using the paper currency. Again, notes, bank notes, like not coins, or, for example, many people give coins to the homeless or, I don't know, to people asking for money. It's a good way to get rid of all of your coins. Some people collect coins. What do we call them?

Rory

A numismatist.

Maria

Numismatist. Yeah, someone who studies or collects coins, paper money or medals, also medals. A numismatist. So dear listener, if you can remember this numismatist, you can say, well, I'm not, I've never been a numismatist.

Rory

Does that mean I'm an amateur numismatist then?

Maria

Oh, yeah, because you do collect coins.

Rory

Yeah.

Maria

Yeah. So you can say, I don't collect coins, but I have different coins from different countries because I changed money, and now I'm stuck with them. Yeah, I just have a few from different countries. It's a nice little souvenir, okay? Souvenir. And they take up not too much space, but actually, if a person is a numismatist. Yeah, then kind of they have special bags for coins. And you know, they hold coins in a special way, because we kind of put our fingers all over the coin. But to a true numismatist, it's just like, oh... They go, no, no, don't do that, and they kind of like very carefully, they take a coin and they hold it... What do you call it?

Rory

I guess they hold it between their fingers, their index finger and their thumb.

Maria

Yeah. Yeah, like this, you know? And they don't put their fingers on the face.

Rory

What a truly bizarre thing to do. Okay. Everybody needs a hobby.

Maria

Yeah, but the rules. You know? The rules.

Rory

It's rules of numismatism.

Maria

Interesting, right?

Rory

Yeah.

Maria

It's convenient to use coins, or it's not convenient to use coins. Again, you can say like, well, not convenient. They're heavy. And if you carry the whole bag of them, your bag is really heavy. So you can say, I use cashless payments. And then Rory asks a question, why would you haul around a load of metal with you?

Rory

Haul around. It would be like to carry something heavy around with you. Why would you do that?

Maria

C2 word, dear listener. Band nine. Haul. Haul. To pull something heavy, slowly, with difficulty. You know, when there is this heavy boat, and you just haul the boat out of the water. So you can say, like, oh, why would you haul around a load of metal? A load? A lot of metal. A lot of metal coins. You can just pay for everything via credit card. Or you can pay using cashless payments, or contactless payments. So there is not much point in it. Or you can say, I love coins. You can say, I am old school, I don't use, you know, all this, you know, high tech stuff. I don't have a smartphone. So... Coins.

Rory

Nice.

Maria

When you compare the past to now, you can say definitely more than compared to now. Rory, you use coins more than compared to now? Really?

Rory

No. The question was, did you use coins as a child? And I said, definitely more than compared to now. So I used them more as a child compared to now, when I don't use them at all.

Maria

Yeah, you can also say I used to use coins, but not anymore. Passive voice. We were given one pound a week, so one pound coin. Ooh, I love those coins. They're so pretty, so nice, like a one-pound coin.

Rory

Pound coins? Really?

Maria

Yeah. They're very nice.

Rory

Why do you think they're so nice?

Maria

Because they're kind of like heavy and small, and also like thick. They're thick. I love the shape. And, Rory, what do you call these special coins they make on certain occasions? Like with the Olympic Games or...

Rory

Oh, commemorative coins.

Maria

Oh, yeah. Dear listener, you can say, oh, I hate coins, but I love commemorative coins because they are special. They usually... Some of them could be quite rare because they issue only, I don't know, like, 10 coins, or like 100 coins in the world. And kind of you get it. Oh, I have coins... The World Cup. With the World Cup.

Rory

You do?

Maria

Yeah.

Rory

Oh yeah. Because, of course, the World Cup was in Russia in 2018, I think?

Maria

Yes, yeah. So we have like, special World Cup coins. Yeah. And now, dear listener, I think you can make a coin with your face on it. Rory, would you like to have a coin with your face on it?

Rory

No.

Maria

And like saying, like, uh, Rory Duncan Fergus... And you're kind of like...

Rory

It's been almost five years now, and Maria still cannot say my name correctly.

Maria

Oh, dear listener, what a topic, coins. Well, now you know the basic vocabulary and the vocabulary for band nine. Okay? You can use synonyms. Just say coins correctly. Rory, say it again.

Rory

Coins.

Maria

Coins. Coins. Coins. It's quite difficult. You might just forget and say...

Rory

The word coin is also a verb. To coin a phrase.

Maria

Oh, really?

Rory

Yes. So hopefully we've given you some words to coin for your IELTS exam. Oh, yes.

Maria

Ooh, and can I use coin as a verb to answer questions about coins? Rory, come on, come on, we can do it.

Rory

I mean, you could if it was a pun.

Maria

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For example, like, oh, like, do you use coins?

Rory

I'm trying to think of a way to do it, like to make a joke on the fly, but I can't. Sorry.

Maria

Oh, come on, come on.

Rory

You can't just say come on and expect it to happen.

Maria

Yeah, but maybe like we can say, do you collect coins? And you say like no, I don't. I used to when I was a child. If I can coin a phrase and then say a phrase.

Rory

Yes, say a phrase, Maria. We're waiting. Say the phrase, Maria. Come on.

Maria

Okay, okay, okay, wait dear listener. Wait.

Rory

See? This is what it feels like.

Maria

Okay, okay, okay, I'm doing. I'm doing it. Quotes about coins. We need a famous quote from smart, famous people about coins. Okay? Time is the coin of life. Yeah, yeah. This is the phrase, time is the coin of life. Huh, huh? Okay, so dear listener, check it out. The examiner asks you, do you use coins in your life? Well, not much, but you know, if I can coin the phrase, time is the coin of life. Doesn't make any sense? No?

Rory

Please, please, don't do that.

Maria

Oh, it's so bad.

Rory

Or the examiner is just gonna execute you on the spot.

Maria

Yeah, dear listener, it's quite horrible. Yeah, maybe you can come up with a phrase, and maybe you can kind of use it naturally. To coin a phrase. Life is like a coin. Oh, there you go. You know? I don't normally, I never use coins in my life, but you know, if I can coin a phrase, life is like a coin, so I do have a lot of coins in my life. Oh, there you go. There you go.

Rory

No, I don't think so. No, banned, disallowed. No, you must stop now. If anyone can think of a more natural way to say it. Write it in the comments.

Maria

Oh, my god. Yeah, we can say life is like a coin. Because what do we do with a coin? We flip a coin, yeah? We just like boom. Yes or no? What do I do? We flip a coin and then we find out the answer. Yeah, dear listener. Thank you very much!

Rory

No, no, dear listener, do not do that. But thank you very much for listening. Bye! Crazy person... Make sure to subscribe to our social media to see some of the “behind the scenes” stuff: Our Instagram: bit.ly/instagramswi Our Telegram: bit.ly/telegramswi