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πŸ“• Part 1: Social media

Why does Rory have a meltdown over mixed conditionals and call an entire generation 'self-obsessed'? Maria tries to keep the peace in this hilarious episode about our digital lives.

Maria & Rory

Β· 19 min read

This episode’s vocabulary

Glued to something

idiom β€” giving something your full attention.

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πŸ“• Part 1: Social media
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Questions and answers

Maria

Do you like social media?

Rory

I suppose if I'd been asked that this time last year, then I would say no, because I really don't, or I really didn't like it. But I've kind of come to appreciate it, with the exception of the kind of "clickbaity" content that's quite popular these days.

Maria

Which social media do you often use?

Rory

Well, it's hard to say since however reluctant I am, I'm on it constantly. However, if I didn't have a choice in the matter, I would probably say or I would have said Instagram, because, well, there's just... I have a wider audience on there. And there's greater variety in terms of content.

Maria

Do you think your friends spent too much time on social media?

Rory

Absolutely. They seem glued to their screens now, constantly answering their DMs. If I were there when they were designing these sites, I wouldn't have these issues now, since I'd have removed them all at the time.

Maria

Do you want to work in a social media company?

Rory

Well, I might have a job there now, if I hadn't been such a terrible student in my IT classes, to be honest with you. The concepts of coding and web development are a bit beyond me now, to be honest.

Maria

What's the most popular form of social media in your country?

Rory

There are different forms. I had absolutely no idea and I suppose I'd have been able to give a better answer if I'd had time to research it more, well, in greater depth. However, if we divide it by age group and interest, then Twitter's popular amongst politically minded adults and Instagram is popular for sort of content-obsessed millennials and then Tik Tok is popular amongst self-obsessed zoomers, probably.

Maria

Thank you, Rory, for your positive answers!

Rory

Oh, social media... It's a nightmare. -

Discussion

Maria

To give you a little bit of context, like two years ago Rory did not have an Instagram account. Rory didn't have Facebook. Rory didn't even know what YouTube was. So he was you know, like clueless. He was like from a cave.

Rory

Hey, hold on a minute. I knew what YouTube was. I just didn't post anything on there. And I still don't. I get Vanya to do all of that for me. Thank you, Vanya!

Maria

Rory, do you know what Tik Tok is?

Rory

It's something that crazy young people engage with and I have no idea about it at all. Even though we have a Tik Tok and you can find us there. How can you find us there? I don't know. Vanya is going to tell me now. Vanya, how can you do it? Okay, Vanya is telling me that anything I say, the link is always in the description. So look in the description for anything I say. Oh, that's true, actually, because the transcripts are linked in the description too. So now, there is no need to contact us directly on Instagram, or send us emails, you can find the links to that in the description as well.

Maria

Social media. Media. So it's plural. So social media are important, right?

Rory

No, social media is important. Well, it's not, it's frivolous and stupid. But it's always social media is.

Maria

What? Is? Wait, wait, wait. I've just opened a Wikipedia page and social media, social media are interactive technologies that facilitate the creation and sharing of information, ideas...

Rory

Well, that's wrong. Social media is a set of interactive technologies. And also, why are you on Wikipedia? Wikipedia is like the worst place to look for information on things.

Maria

Wait, but isn't media plural?

Rory

Well, it can be a plural form. But social media.

Maria

The term social media is both singular and plural in modern English usage.

Rory

Oh, good, in modern English usage when the language is a total disaster area.

Maria

The word media is traditionally a plural because medium is the singular.

Rory

I can just about guarantee you if you say social media are, the examiner is going to be like...

Maria

Really? Are you joking? So social media is?

Rory

Yeah. Because usually, we talk about social media as just one thing in general.

Maria

Alright. Dear listener, yeah. So social media could be is or are. Right? Again, in modern English. Rory is insisting that social media is.

Rory

Rory is insisting that it's is because he is correct.

Maria

Interesting. Okay? So let's just notice which verbs do we have with social media.

Rory

Let's notice and make the correct choice. Social media is.

Maria

Okay... Interesting... Alright... Yeah. Let us know in the comments. Have you ever seen social media and where have you seen it, okay?

Rory

And then tell Rory, he is right. Thank you.

Maria

I'd say I loathed it. That's another interesting word, which is easy to pronounce. Loathed it.

Rory

Loathed. I loathe it. I do not like it.

Maria

Do you really use this word? I loathe.

Rory

Yes. But you use it in specific circumstances when you're talking about something that you really, really don't like, and I really don't like social media.

Maria

Still?

Rory

I really didn't like it. And now I hate it less than I used to.

Maria

Okay, there we go.

Rory

So I would say I loathe it, in the past. And now I would say I just hate it.

Maria

Yeah, you can say I hated it, I disliked it, I used to hate it, or I loathed it. If you can pronounce it. Like loathe, loathed it.

Rory

That's a good pronunciation practice, though.

Maria

Clickbait videos. A clickbait. So if for example, our video is called...

Rory

Rory and Maria are shutting down the podcast.

Maria

Oh, yeah. Or like the secret of all secrets of band nine. Like the best strategy ever, I don't know. Or Rory grew wings. Rory is not Scottish. Yeah. So something like this, and you would go... And you would click on this video and you would watch it. And yeah, so clickbait. A clickbait video. We post content on Instagram. So it's the same as like I post content on Facebook, on Instagram, on Tik Tok. The preposition is always on, right?

Rory

Well, it should be. Yeah. And you post content on somewhere for an audience. And the audience are the people who view your content or the people that it's intended for.

Maria

Or you can say I saw it on Instagram, I saw it on Facebook, I saw it on Tik Tok.

Rory

But content is a nice specialist word.

Maria

Yes. I'm on it constantly. I'm constantly on Instagram. And Rory, most of the time you are constantly on Instagram, right? Or you go Facebook, Instagram, Facebook, Instagram.

Rory

No, it's almost always Instagram. So if people want to find me and talk to me get in touch on Instagram. I sound really sad about that. I like talking to people on Instagram. But some of the things I see on there. I'm like, oh, this is so stupid.

Maria

And what would you call a person who is always on Instagram? An Instagram freak?

Rory

Dead. Dead on the inside. That's what I would call them.

Maria

Don't listen to him. He's, you know, he's old school. Rory is like, you know, old school.

Rory

What would I call them? It'd probably be like, I don't know, an Instagram addict. Maybe?

Maria

Instagram addicts, right? So people are addicted to social media, addicted to Instagram, addicted to Facebook. So yeah, Instagram addicts or Facebook addicts. We spend too much time on social media. Again, spend time on Instagram, on Facebook, scrolling back and forth. And you've used a nice one. People seem glued to their screens. So your screen and you're glued.

Rory

Oh my god, is that idiomatic language for a high score?

Maria

Band nine score.

Rory

Yes, it's idiomatic language, which is good for you. To be glued to the screen. Yeah? Not literally glued.

Rory

Not with glue, with eyes.

Maria

DMs. We answer our DMs sometimes. Yeah?

Rory

Our direct messages.

Maria

Look at you, Rory, you're using abbreviations. Fancy. Ooh, fancy, and modern. Wow.

Rory

But that's just another way of saying someone's chatting to you online. I mean, I know people are like, oh, direct messages, that's when people contact you directly. It's like, yeah, it's a chat function, they'd just given it a different name to sell it to people.

Maria

And now for this mixed conditional. Rory, I'm actually afraid to ask you about this.

Rory

I'm afraid that you ask me about it too, to be honest with you.

Maria

Okay, if we look at an example that you gave us here. If I had been there, when they were designing social media websites, I wouldn't have these issues. Oh, my God, since I'd have removed the option. No, I'm not discussing this.

Rory

So, we're talking about something in the past, which I didn't have control of in order to talk about the future consequences, which I am experiencing now, that I wouldn't have if the situation had not happened.

Maria

No, it doesn't make any sense. No, it's not easy. I don't understand. Okay. Dear listener, if it's a bit beyond you, if you don't understand anything, don't use mixed conditionals. They're quite clumsy. They're bulky. They are difficult. And it's you know, because...

Rory

But they are amazing for getting a band nine score. So let's look at this, because I've typed it out here. So listen, if I had been or if I'd been there, when they were designing these sites, so a situation in the past, which had to happen because sites get designed in the past. Are we with me so far? Maria?

Maria

No.

Rory

No? Okay. I wasn't there, I wish I had been, but I was not. I wouldn't have these issues, these issues, being my friends, being glued to their screen now, because I would have removed the option to have direct messages. There we go.

Maria

Are you joking? Like seriously?

Rory

No.

Maria

Oh, boy, oh, boy. Dear listener, maybe it's... If kind of you are upper intermediate or you feel you are advanced. So your level is very high, right? Upper intermediate, advanced. You can go and google mixed conditionals in your own language, and read about them. And then come back, read our script and think about this, you know, difference in time. And then you can also ask questions in the comments. Okay? Mixed conditionals in the comments, let's have this mixed conditionals discussion in the comments, because I don't think I can...

Rory

Or contact Maria with your examples on Instagram, and she will answer them for you. She will check them, every single one.

Maria

Ah, ah, ah, mixed conditions.

Rory

Why do you not like mixed conditionals?

Maria

I think they're hard to use. And you should be kind of like, advanced, like truly advanced and you should be able to kind of understand it and use it just like that, you know.

Rory

Well, mixed conditionals are connecting the past to the future, or the past to the present or some variation of that.

Maria

Yeah, yeah. No, they are great to use. Alright? But I'm just feeling that our dear listener is sitting there and is going what? Yeah.

Rory

Whatever. I got it right. And it worked for me and I have band nine, so...

Maria

Yeah, aren't we awesome?

Rory

We are. Oh, look, there's another mixed conditional in the next example. Should we talk about the vocabulary first before you have another meltdown?

Maria

Yeah, yeah, okay. Just pull yourself together. Come on. Come on. I have my super rabbit. Alright. Pink, pink, pink, pink, pink. Alright, it's a pinky episode. Alright?

Rory

Vocabulary. Coding and web development are different aspects, not just of social media, but of websites in general. So you can apply these concepts to those areas too. So for example, if we talk about... Where was it? Web development. That's just the process of developing a website.

Maria

And you said that now it's beyond me. It's like, coding - no. This - no. So it's beyond me. It's like far too much for me. So I'm not gonna go into there. Yeah?

Rory

It's beyond me or it's alien to me, because it's something so strange, I just don't understand it. And I don't understand it. Which is why I grossly oversimplified web development there. I know web development is a really complex topic, but it's just it's a lot. And we only have like 20 minutes.

Maria

And we have our mixed conditional. So Rory said, I might have a job there. So there - in a social media company. I might have a job there now. Now, now, right? Now. If in the past, I hadn't been such a terrible student. In the past, at school, Rory at school, alright? So he was a terrible student. If he hadn't been a terrible student, he might get a job now. Oh my gosh, I'm explaining, and I feel how difficult this is. Yeah, so I might have a job now. I may have a job now. I could have a job now. Right? Present. If I hadn't been. Past Perfect. Because we're talking about a past.

Rory

So connecting possible present to possible past.

Maria

Okay. Are you okay, dear listener? Are you okay? Please say you're okay.

Rory

I'm okay, I'm doing great. What's wrong with you?

Maria

We have different forms of social media or different kinds of social media, right?

Rory

Apparently. You can see from my reaction that I was very surprised to learn this.

Maria

And then Rory told us about Tik Tok. You can mention your local social media. I don't know, Snapchat.

Rory

However, we can also... When we refer to social media, we can talk about different groups of people or different generations that engage in social media. So we have adults who are like the grown-ups, like proper grownups. And then we have the millennials who are just behind them in their 20s and 30s. Well, actually, I guess they're all the 30s and 40s now in fact. And the zoomers are just behind. They're like teenagers now.

Maria

And you can say that we can divide the forms of social media by age groups, right? So divide something by age groups. And then like politically minded people prefer this, right? Green-minded people prefer this. Green, yeah, like who are into environmentally friendly things. And you said that self-obsessed people?

Rory

Yeah, I'm really sorry, if you're under the age of 20. I've just called yourself obsessed. But really, their generation is extremely self-obsessed. I say this as if our generation is not. Like, we're pretty bad for this too. But that just means you're obsessed with yourself.

Maria

To be bothered to pay attention to social media. So if I bother to pay attention to something I kind of I...

Rory

You have the motivation to do it.

Maria

Yeah. Or you can say I don't bother with Instagram. I can't be bothered with social media. It's not my thing to post stuff every day. Right? Or it's my thing. Right? I really enjoy it. Yeah, I'm obsessed with Instagram. I'm a Facebook addict, right? A Tik Tok addict. "Tiktokholic". "Facebookholic". "Instagramholic". Like shopaholic, right? But yeah, I don't think these words exist, actually. We can, you know, be creative. And like, you know, I'm a bit of an "instagramholic". And look at the examiner like come on, like I'm kind of joking, you know.

Rory

But maybe in the exam it's not the best time to invent those words.

Maria

Yeah, yeah, we kind of play safe. Yeah? In the exam. Now, mixed conditionals, Rory. You did use mixed conditionals.

Rory

I used mixed conditionals. And Maria had to use all of her cognitive power to not have a breakdown while we talked about them.

Maria

So you said that, I suppose I would have been able to give a better answer, if I bothered to pay attention to them. Okay, and why not if I had bothered?

Rory

Why not indeed? You probably could have said that too.

Maria

Okay, that's a nice excuse. Okay, you can say this, you can say that.

Rory

What do you mean it's a nice excuse? I suppose if I had bothered would be like in the past, but if I bothered to pay attention to them would be like, I just don't do it in general now.

Maria

Oh, okay, okay. I see. So we have the third conditional. Three, conditional three. And the second. So we mix the third with the second. So I'd have been able, but I wasn't able in the past. If now I bothered, but I don't bother. Oh, my God.

Rory

It was like in the immediate past as well. Because it was like in the, like, five seconds previously, when you asked me the question. I was like, oh, there are? I have no idea. I suppose I'd have been able to give a better answer 10 seconds ago, if I'd bothered to pay attention. Like if I bothered to do it, like if I did it now. Or if I had done it previously in the past.

Maria

Okay, dear listener, please, bear with us. Alright? So this is like high-level stuff, like this is super high-level stuff.

Rory

It is not super high level.

Maria

Usually we don't give, you know, such depth and the mixed conditionals. But if you are on top of the world. Yeah, with your upper intermediate, advanced. And if you want to kind of move your grammar forward. You know, there, to band nine, you should really understand the mixed conditionals. Yeah, because this is advanced. This is C2 level, proficiency, not even advanced. Like proficiency level.

Rory

We talked about getting people to band nine and maybe for some of them this is the next step. Look at the good I do. Thank you. You're welcome.

Maria

Thank you, Rory, for supporting us with your mixed conditionals and with saying yeah, you can say this, you can say that, you know, it's just, choose.

Rory

Say whatever you like, it doesn't matter. It just must be correct.

Maria

I don't have a joke about social media. Sorry.

Rory

Social media is a joke. Get off of social media, get outside and like feel the grass underneath your feet for heaven's sake.

Maria

No, no, but why are you so negative about social media? Come on. This is like, why? What's your problem, Rory? It's our everyday world today. We are on Instagram.

Rory

Exactly. It is our everyday world today. It distracts us from the real world, from our friends and our family. It should be complementing life, not taking it over like it constantly is. So put the phone... Oh, wait, finish this video, then put the phone and then go outside.

Maria

It's also our business, like people do business, people make money because of social media.

Rory

I know, they do. But even I tell people who talk to me, like who want to be my students. I always say like, we're having the lesson for one hour. And then we're finishing the lesson. And I'm going outside because I'm not spending all day sat on a computer. Although, admittedly, that's teaching. It's not social media. But this is the reason why I only teach for an hour. And then I go and do something else. Because I'm not spending all day looking at the screen. No, that's silly. Have a life.

Maria

Dear listener, if you do want to spend the whole day looking at our faces, or our whatever we do, we have Telegram, we have Instagram, the links are in the description. You can go check it out, our Instagram, Facebook, Telegram accounts. And also on Telegram we have a group where you can find a speaking partner. Yeah, the link is in the description. So to practice your English with a person, you just go there, find a speaking partner, a speaking buddy. And talk to them. Yeah? Discuss Rory and how horrible he is.

Rory

And then go outside. Go into the real world.

Maria

Thank you very much for listening! Sending hugs and joy! If you do want to say thank you, you can make a donation, the link is in the description. And these donations help us to make these videos for free for you. So we're renting out this nice place. We're buying the equipment. So if you can donate something to us, we would be super grateful. The link is in the description.

Rory

See you next time. Bye!

Maria

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