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Part 2

Describe a foreign person who you have heard or known that you think is interesting

This episode's vocabulary


  • Narrow sth down (phrasal verb) - to make a number or list of things smaller, by removing the things that are least important, necessary, or suitable.
  • Equivalent (adj.) - having the same amount, value, purpose, qualities, etc.
  • Proficiency (noun) - the fact of having the skill and experience for doing something
  • Wordplay (noun) - the activity of joking about the meanings of words, especially in an intelligent way.
  • Go out of your way - to try very hard to do something, especially for someone else.
  • Handy (adj.) - useful or convenient.
  • Trait (noun) - a particular characteristic that can produce a particular type of behaviour.


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Questions and Answers


M: Rory, give us a shout-out.

R: Shall we start?

M: Yay, off you go.

R: Well, this is actually quite a difficult one to narrow down because I know a lot of foreign people. But I'd like to talk about my good friend Filipe, who I used to work with at my former workplace. We both started out as teachers and rose to become managers within just a few years of each other. We're both known Russians, but unlike me, he is from Brazil. Not that you would know it since he speaks English extremely well. He even has CPE qualification, which is a certificate that's given to non-native speakers with level of English that's equivalent to proficiency or educated native speaker level. That's like a band nine for IELTS really. So with that in mind, it should come as no surprise that proficiency he's exceptionally good with languages and often makes puns and does a lot of wordplay. Even in his own native Portuguese, I believe. Aside from being quite good at, well, aside from being a good laugh, and fun to be around, he's also known for being rather helpful and often goes out of his way to support others. This came in very handy when we worked together on different management projects. I was putting together some tests, for example, and he helped me out with that. That was really helpful. In addition to those personality traits, he's also very tall, which definitely catches people's eyes, obviously, when you see him. But despite that, and the excellent speaking ability, he's quite interesting, more for what he doesn't say. And by that, I mean, he's actually an incredibly good listener. Though, this is perhaps helped by the fact that he enjoys the process rather than just forcing himself to do it. I think that goes to show that in order to be a good speaker, you have to be just as good at listening if not better.

M: What about your friends, do they know this person?

R: Um, most of my friends do.

M: Yay. Thank you, Rory!

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Discussion


M: Philippe, I know Filipe. Filipe is cool.

R: Yay, we used to work together.

M: He's Brazilian. Hello, Filipe, if you're listening to this premium episode. So hello. Yeah. So dear listener, your card in speaking part two it could be about a person. Alright. So here we have " Describe a foreign person". A foreign person meaning a person from a different country. So I'm Russian, so I can talk about Rory because Rory is a foreign person.

R: A foreigner.

M: A foreigner, a stranger, Scottish foreigner. So yeah. But other cards could be about a relative, about an athlete, about a business person you know, about a creative person. You see, so just about a person. So all the vocabulary could be used about other cards, which have a person in the task. Okay? So Rory, you started off with, this was actually quite a difficult one, quite a difficult one, quite a difficult task. Or you can say that, wow, that's a hard one. And then you said to narrow down, to narrow down the choice, right?

R: So that's just like to, well, focus on something or find something to focus on.

M: So I know a lot of foreign people, and it's quite difficult to narrow it down and choose only one person. And then you go, I'd like to talk about my friend. I'd like to talk about my colleague, or I'd like to talk about, I don't know...

R: This famous person.

M: A stranger I met.

R: Good use of relative clause. We haven't talked about grammar in a while, who I used to work with. So it's a relative pronoun and used to.

M: Yay, band nine grammar on this podcast. Yeah, so I'd like to talk about Filipe, who I used to work with, or I'd like to talk about, I don't know, Jessica, who I met at my former workplace. Yeah? And then you say he's from Brazil, or she's from blah. She speaks blah, then... Bla is a new language, she speaks blah. Do you speak blah? No, I mean like blah, blah, blah. Does she speak Portuguese, Spanish? And then you can talk about the education. Rory, what did you say about Philippe's education?

R: Oh, I talked about different qualifications and certificates.

M: Yeah, yeah, why not? And then you said that, oh, we should come as no surprise that he is exceptionally good with languages. So this person is exceptionally good with cars or with people. To be good with technology. Exceptionally good. Rory is exceptionally good with...

R: Something I'm sure. Haven't quite found it yet.

M: With putting whiskey in his cornflakes in the morning. And then you go, aside from being quite a good laugh and fun, he's also known for. Wow, this is a very good sentence. So aside from being quite a good laugh, so Rory is a good laugh. That means that Rory is fun to be with, fun to be around. Okay, so Rory is funny. So aside from being quite a good laugh and fun to be around, he's also known for being rather helpful.

R: Yes.

M: So Rory is known for being a good writer, for example.

R: Allegedly.

M: Rory is known to be fun to be around. Yeah? Can I say like, he's fun to be around with?

R: No, just he's fun to be around.

M: To be around this person. Yeah. So Rory and Maria are fun to be around. They're a good laugh. We are known for being rather helpful in terms of IELTS. Yeah, because we have lots of feedback from our listeners who have great IELTS scores. Then you said that he goes out of his way to support others. So to go out of your way - to do something.

R: Yes. That means you just put in extra effort to do good things or to do something.

M: Yeah, we can say Rory goes out of his way to help English learners.

R: Well, I try to.

M: Yeah, you're doing it. Well done, you. Well done us. Then you can talk about personality traits. And Rory goes like, in addition to these personality traits, so personality traits, character traits, right? You don't say qualities, well, you can say qualities, but traits is a nice word to use. So he's also very tall, you can talk about his appearance, so tall, short. And you can say about something that catches people's eyes, like his crazy hair catches people's eyes or his bright clothes. Again, you can make it up, you can lie, you can say something, right? And then you said about his excellent speaking ability, yeah? Like excellent speaking ability, he is very sociable, he just is natural at talking to people.

R: Or just he's a natural.

M: He's a natural.

R: He's a people person.

M: He's an incredibly good listener. Again, like you can talk about different personality traits. And then that you can say that he's determined, what character traits can our listener mention, like determined, sociable, what else? Honest.

R: Can't think of any others. Knowledgeable.

M: Hardworking.

R: Yeah, that's a good one.

M: Fun to be around.

R: Oh, fun to hang around with, maybe, if you want to use with.

M: He's fun to hang around with. You hang around. Also, in terms of grammar, you can use used to. So we used to work together, or we used to travel together, but not anymore. And you can use present perfect. For example, I've known this person for 10 years. I've known him for one year, I have known him or her for one month or we've been friends since blah, or we've been friends for two months, something like that. So Past and Present Perfect.

R: We could also talk about the different sequencing phrases like with that in mind to refer to what came before, aside from and then what you've mentioned before, and then in addition to and what you've mentioned before as well. And then by that, I mean... And then adding your extra explanation.

M: Yeah, these phrases help to make your speech more coherent. Yeah, because one of the criteria is coherence and fluency. So these phrases help you to organize what you're saying and for the examiner to follow you easily. Okay?

R: Yes.

M: Lovely. Thank you very much for listening! And we'll see you and hear you in the next episodes speaking part three.

R: Bye!

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