This episode's vocabulary
- Stereotype (noun) - stereotype a set idea that people have about what someone or something is like, especially an idea that is wrong.
- Turn sb. off (phrasal verb) - to stop someone feeling interested or excited.
- Overpriced (adj.) - too expensive.
- Crowding (noun) - a large group of people who have come together.
- To romanticize (verb) - to talk about something in a way that makes it sound better than it really is, or to believe that something is better than it really is.
- Distraction (noun) - something that prevents someone from giving their attention to something else.
- Ambience (noun) - the character of a place or the quality it seems to have.
- Skeptical (adj.) - doubting that something is true or useful.
- To speculate (verb) - to guess possible answers to a question when you do not have enough information to be certain.
- Kick (noun) - a strong feeling of excitement and pleasure.
- To animate (verb) - to cause someone or something to be more active or full of life.
- Fix (noun) - an amount of an illegal drug, or of another substance that has an effect on someone.
- Caffeinated (adj.) - containing caffeine.
- Sit-down meal (noun) - a sit-down meal is served to people who are sitting at a table.
- Numerous (adj.) - many.
Questions and Answers
M: Are you ready? Rory?
R: I am ready.
M: Yay. Do people in your country like to drink coffee?
R: Well, I think most people do everywhere, don't they? I would say British people have earned this sort of stereotype as tea drinkers as opposed to Americans who prefer coffee. But I think there's a pretty good balance. Someone told me once that depends on the time of day actually.
M: What kind of people would like to go to a cafe?
R: It's probably easier to imagine who might be turned off by a cafe, to be honest. Um, I think most people think they're great, as long as they don't mind the noise of other people and the slightly overpriced products.
M: And why do some people dislike cafes?
R: Well, like I say, the noise or the crowding is probably the worst issue.
M: Why do young people like studying in a cafe instead of at home?
R: Well, they probably don't, to be honest. I think many people have a romanticized notion of cafes as a place where people get serious work done. But let's face it, there's a lot of noise, there are many distractions. I can't see people getting a lot done there unless it's a business meeting, which students generally don't participate in. But let's imagine they do. There are opportunities to chat, share ideas, and enjoy the ambience if it's a well-decorated place with a good atmosphere. I'm still quite skeptical about that, though.
M: Do old people like to drink coffee?
R: I have no idea. Um, but if I were to speculate, I'd say they do. It's probably a reminder of times past when they drank coffee in their youth. And it can add a kick to get the conversation animated. I suppose that's true with most people, though. Who doesn't benefit from getting their caffeine fix?
M: Who goes to cafes more often, older people or young people?
R: That's a good question. Um, on the one hand, young people are, well, they're more sociable, so they probably have more cause to go to a coffee. But older people tend to have more money, so they're able to spend it more there. I think they both like to go for different reasons and to different extents.
M: What are the differences between a cafe and a restaurant?
R: Well, I suppose a cafe is about coffee or some sort of caffeinated product. While a restaurant is more about sit-down meals, usually with big groups of people, although it doesn't have to be. So the cafe is more about drinking and restaurants is more about food. And also a cafe is more about smaller products, whereas the restaurant is about larger products.
M: And which ones are more popular cafes or restaurants? So more people go to cafe or to a restaurant?
R: That's a good question. I don't even know how you would begin to measure that. But I'd probably say cafes because, well, they're cheaper. And so... And they're more numerous as well.
M: All right, thank you, Rory, for your answers!
M: So, dear listener, because it's a new topic, we have only these questions. And as you might have noticed, I added follow-up questions. So I asked Rory a question. He gave an answer. And then I just added one more question just out of my head. So the examiner does the same thing. Examiner asks the question, which they have in their booklet, but then, when you answer the question, the examiner asks you follow-up questions. And these questions are not written in the booklet. The examiner just makes the questions up. Okay? So because this part is called a discussion, that's why the examiner has some freedom in terms of questions. So, let's first of all talk about other questions on this topic that the examiner might ask you. Rory, what do you think? So we talked about why people drink coffee. What kind of people go to a cafe. What else can the examiner ask you here?
R: Well, they might say list the reasons why people go to cafes, or what do people expect when they go to a cafe?
M: Oh, yeah. Why do people go to a cafe?
R: Why do people go to a cafe? To drink coffee. No, you could say there are many reasons why people go there. And then you just see what they are, going to have coffee, to socialize, to have fun, to get the free Wi-Fi.
M: Yeah, to enjoy the atmosphere. Yeah, or some people just enjoy different places like me, for example. I enjoy designs, I like the interior design and different, you know, architecture of cafes, if you can say so.
R: The interior design of cafes.
M: Yeah. And variety of cafes, you know, the colors and the places, so and the variety of them. All right. What else? What about the future? Usually, they have questions about the future. So for example, in the future, will there be more cafes or restaurants? And what kind of cafes will there be in the future? Will we go online? Will there be online cafes. Something like that. Or for example, often they ask you to compare the past and the present. So are there any differences in the cafes we used to have in the past and the cafes these days? Rory, what do you think?
R: Oh, yeah, comparing. It could be are there differences in how cafes are run in different countries?
M: Yep. Yeah. So, first of all, a cafe or a restaurant? That's a good question. Like, what are the differences between the cafe and a restaurant? I liked the question and I liked your answer. So genuinely speaking, a restaurant refers to any establishment. Establishment is a place that serves food or beverages. So you can call McDonald's a restaurant. So all cafes are restaurants, okay, guys? But not all restaurants are cafes. A quote, so you can just copy-paste it into your answer. Oh, God. So cafes are places that serve different types of coffee and drinks. Restaurants, as Rory has told us, serve more serious food. Does it make sense? What do you think?
R: Yes, that makes perfect sense. Cafes, like you don't stay in there for long.
M: Usually, but some people do.
M: You can just sit in Starbucks for ages if you are studying. Oh, yeah. Some people do. Oh, some people have classes in cafes, English teachers have classes in cafes.
R: Really? Wow.
M: Yeah. I used to do that a lot. And I would just sit there for three hours or more. If I have like three, four students in a row, you know. English teachers, hello, if you're listening in. So, you said that British have earned a stereotype as tea drinkers.
R: Yes. Tea drinkers, coffee drinkers, beer drinkers, all groups of people who drink something.
M: What kind of drinker are you, Rory? A whiskey drinker?
M: Everything drinker?
R: No. I'm an energy drink drinker.
M: Oh, energy drink drinker. Yeah, I am an energy drink person. What kind of people go to cafe? Yeah. What kind of people?
R: You can reframe it. And you just talk about the people who don't like it. But the kind of people that like to go to a coffee are probably sociable. They have lots of friends. They have lots of, well, they like coffee, clearly.
M: Yeah, people who enjoy this, people who like this, but also Rory said that it's easier to imagine who might be turned off by a cafe. So to be turned off by something means...
R: Well, just you don't like it, it doesn't make you interested. It does the opposite, actually, it puts you off.
M: So you don't like bananas, can you say that, oh, bananas turn me off.
R: Yeah, well, they turn me off whatever meal they're part of.
M: And then you can talk about the romanticized notion of cafes. You know, like, you go on a date, and it's all romance and love is in the air.
R: Let's keep talking about the vocabulary and the products that you can buy there, which can be overpriced.
M: Oh, yeah.
R: Overpriced products just means they cost too much, or they cost more than you think they're worth.
M: And this could be one of the reasons why people don't like cafes, because it's overpriced. And also you said crowding, right?
R: Yes. Crowding, crowded, too many people.
M: Yeah. And how do I say this? I don't like cafes because they are too crowded or because of crowding. How do I use crowding in a sentence?
R: The crowding is bad.
M: Yeah. Or crowded places. I hate cafes because they're always crowded. Or the crowding is bad. And there is a lot of noise, there are many distractions. Right. So you can easily get distracted. You've used the word the ambience.
R: Yes. Which is just another way of describing the atmosphere in a place.
M: Yes,so I enjoy the atmosphere of this cafe. Or I enjoy the ambience. So why do people go to cafes? To enjoy the ambience. And if it's a well-decorated place, it's nice just to be there. Coffee can add a kick to get the conversation animated, to add a kick to something.
R: And if you... You'll get a kick from your caffeine fix, which is just another way of saying you want caffeine and once that need is satisfied, you've got your fix.
M: Caffeine fix. Yeah, I need mine caffeine fix. I need my tea fix. So just give me tea or coffee. But if I add a kick to something I start it or I add a kind of a twist to something?
R: What do you add a twist to your coffee with?
M: So I can add a kick to my coffee?
R: Not really. Well, you might put another shot of coffee into it, but it's already got coffee in it.
M: Yeah, but if I add a kick to something, what is it? Give us a synonym.
R: For add a kick?
R: I don't think there is a synonym. Add something extra?
M: Something extra. Okay. Add something extra to get the conversation animated. Yeah. Okie Dokie. All right, dear listener. So we hope that you're going to be ready to talk about coffee, and cafes, and restaurants. Now you know the difference between a cafe and a restaurant? Okay? Just quote me when I said that any cafe is a restaurant but not all restaurants are cafes, oh God. Yeah, to make sure that the examiner understands that you know what you're talking about. Okay? You are prepared and you know all the differences and the nitty-gritty details. Rory, are you a cafe person or a restaurant person?
R: Oh, definitely a cafe person.
M: Hmm. Right. So when you were in Moscow, how often did you go to a cafe?
R: More regularly than I do now because you could just go out more freely.
M: Hmm, okay. And how much time would you spend in a cafe?
R: That's a good question. No longer than an hour, I think. What about for you?
M: Oh, I can just... If I like the cafe, I can just sit there for ages reading my book, enjoying my food. So I can just easily spend like three hours in a cafe. So we are cafe people. Thank you very much for listening! We'll see you in the next episode! Bye!
M: Rory, shall we go to cafe now?
R: Yes, let's!
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