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Part 3

Moving places

This episode's vocabulary


  • To perceive (verb) - to come to an opinion about something, or have a belief about something.
  • Asylum (noun) - protection or safety, especially that given by a government to people who have been forced to leave their own countries for their safety or because of war.
  • Logistics (plural noun) - the process of planning and organizing to make sure that resources are in the places where they are needed, so that an activity or process happens effectively.
  • To force (verb) - to make something happen or make someone do something difficult, unpleasant, or unusual, especially by threatening or not offering the possibility of choice.
  • Hassle (noun) - (a situation causing) difficulty or trouble.
  • To foresee (verb) - to know about something before it happens.
  • The wherewithal (noun) - the money necessary for a particular purpose.
  • To immerse yourself in sth - to become completely involved in something.
  • Not go amiss - if something might/would not go amiss, it would be useful and might help to improve a situation.
  • Practicality (noun) - quality of being suitable for a particular occasion or use.
  • Adventurous (adj.) - willing to try new or difficult things.
  • To deprive (verb) - to take something, especially something necessary or pleasant, away from someone.
  • Arrival (noun) - a person or thing that comes to a place.
  • In the long run - at a time that is far away in the future.
  • To incline (verb) - to (make someone) feel something or want to do something.
  • To settle down (phrasal verb) - to start living in a place where you intend to stay for a long time, usually with your partner.
  • Proposition (noun) - an idea or opinion.
  • Flexible (adj.) - able to change or be changed easily according to the situation.

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Questions and Answers


M: Why do people move to a new home?

R: I think in just about every case, it's because they find something better, or at least it's perceived that way. Even if it's people seeking asylum in a new country, the idea is that it's better than being dead or oppressed, for example.

M: Some people dislike moving home, what could be the reasons do you think?

R: Well, I mean, despite the fact that is better than being dead or oppressed, there's still a lot of issues with logistics involved, aren't there? And also, you might not necessarily want to leave your home, but you're being forced to. So that plays a part in it as well. More generally, it's just difficult to organize moving, and it's quite stressful, even if we're not talking about a sort of warzone situation. You could probably just sum up as it's a hassle to move.

M: What problems will people face after moving to a new place?

R: Well, how long is a piece of string? I think the most easily foreseen issues are connected to language, culture and logistics. Like for example, you could have all the wherewithal to buy and fill a house, but that will do little good if you can't communicate with your neighbors or order things at the local shop. So that's an issue of language and culture, I suppose.

M: How do people solve these problems?

R: Well, in the case of language, you ideally hire a teacher and learn it in advance of moving. Cultural issues usually take a little bit more getting used to it, but generally, you can read about them and immerse yourself in the culture as much as you can before you move. As for logistics, some advanced planning never goes amiss, I suppose.

M: Any more practical problems that people face when they move house?

R: Well, if we want it to be more specific about logistics, then it could be things like finding a decent moving company, for example, or booking flights or getting insurance. So all of these are connected to, well, this idea of practicality, or logistics, as I'm choosing to call it.

M: What are the advantages and disadvantages of living in the same place?

R: For your whole life? I mean, I imagine it would get boring for people who are more adventurous. Plus you deprive yourself of opportunities that exist elsewhere, which might be bad if you, I don't know, live in a dying community or an economically disadvantaged one. Then again, you know the area and the people well, so you might be more aware of hidden opportunities that new arrivals or newer arrivals might not even happen upon by chance.

M: Is it reasonable to move to a new place frequently?

R: Well, assuming you're fine with it, I can't see why not. Some people have jobs that take them all over the world to new places, and to meetings with new clients all the time. I'm not entirely sure if that's sustainable in the long run, though. So as you get older, you might be more inclined to settle down. If the conditions are right, though, then there doesn't seem to be too much wrong with the initial proposition.

M: Do you think that in the future, people will move house more often?

R: Your guess is as good as mine on that one. I'd like to think that they will move house less often, since that is an indication of greater stability, and hopefully the world is becoming a more stable place. But that's just what I hope. I don't know for sure.

M: Do you think it's better to leave in the same house? Or it's okay to move once in a while?

R: It depends entirely on your personality. Some people are quite happy living in the same place for their whole lives because the, well, they're just creatures of habit. And they're used to that sort of thing. Other people, like we talked about craving for novelty before, other people crave new things and new places, so they'll be more inclined to move elsewhere. And that will make them much happier. So it's dependent entirely on the individual.

M: Do you think it's better to rent a place or buy your own place?

R: I think it's actually better to buy, isn't it? Because people keep telling me this. And there are a variety of economic reasons for it, which I'm not well versed. But apparently, owning your own home is cheaper than renting. However, renting is more flexible in terms of moving around. So there's an advantage there as well. It depends on the kind of lifestyle and job you have, I suppose.

M: Do you think people genuinely move house more often now than they used to? Like 10 years ago or 20 years ago?

R: I'm not sure. I would guess so. Based on the increased migration that we're seeing. And so people are coming into houses and people are moving out of areas and all things like that. So yes, I think there's a trend of more moving around. Maybe that slowed down with the pandemic. But I can't see it going in reverse. That's for sure. And not at the moment anyway.

M: Do you think it's positive trend?

R: Well, not particularly, I mean, I hope the world is becoming a more stable place, so people won't have to move around more. However, people have the option to move around more. So there's this freedom of movement that they have. So in some ways, it's a good thing, because people have the choice to do what they want, and go where they want. But on the other hand, it's a bad thing, because it leads to increased instability. And probably it's not very good for the environment either. So it does depend on your perspective on these things.

M: Thank you, Rory, for your answers! They are quite moving!

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Discussion


M: So let's take a look. What do we have here? Again, the phrase is to move house, to move home, or move to a new home or to a new place. And we talked about, well, Rory talked about logistics. So logistics of moving.

R: Yes. But that's just to do wit, oh, how best to describe it, the use of infrastructure to move things around. So what you do to be able to move. Like hiring a moving van, for example, getting people to pack your things onto, well, a moving truck.

M: Yeah, so hiring a moving van. It's called a van. And you also mentioned hiring a moving company. Yeah. So all these practical details, which are associated with moving, right, so the boxes packing... And then you mentioned like, it's a hassle to move.

R: Yeah, so if something is a hassle, then it just means that it creates a lot of problems for you.

M: It's a real hassle. Like imagine like you're moving house, you have to pack all your things. And if you're not like Rory who travels light, you have all the suitcases and everything, all your life and you just move all your life to another country, gosh, or even to another place in the city, yeah? Rory just takes one backpack, and off he goes. Oh, God, wow, that's impressive. You said that some people move because they are forced to leave.

R: So if you're forced to do something, it means you don't have a choice. And it's like, the circumstances or some external group of people are making you leave.

M: So for example, something that happens in the country, and then people decide to leave the country and migrate. Right. So move to a new country.

R: Yeah.

M: They seek asylum in the new country.

R: So if you seek asylum, it just means you look for a safe place to live.

M: Now, something great is coming. So when the examiner asks you a difficult question, your answer is another question. It's amazing. So for example, like, how many stars are there in the sky?

R: Yeah. So if you get asked a question where there's like an unknown quantity, it's just easier to ask sometimes, like, well, how long is a piece of string? So what the idea is that it depends on the circumstances. Of course, all of these questions depend on the circumstances, none of what you might be familiar with.

M: How long is a piece of string? So what is a string?

R: A string? It's like, I don't know how, how else I can describe it. It's like a long piece of fabric.

M: Go Google, please google, just string. A piece of string, Google and go to the images, right? So look at the picture. Because again, just it will save our breath explaining. So a string. Yes. And if the examiner asks you, What problems will people face after moving to a new place? Oh, well, how long is a piece of string? How many stars are there in the sky? How long is a piece of string? Could you give us one more example?

R: How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

M: How long is a piece of string? It's like, really, I don't know. It depends, like there are many answers to this question. So it's cool. But it's a rhetorical question. Don't wait for the examiner to give you the answer. Okay. And kind of you. You asked this question. How long is a piece of string? So okay, go ahead, dear examiner, tell me, how long is a piece of string? No, it's a rhetorical question. So there is no answer. So you keep going answering the question. But by saying this, you kind of give a signal to the examiner that well, there are many answers. I don't really know. It's kind of it's a difficult question. So if you want to jazz up your sentence, saying, oh, it's a difficult question, oh, I've never thought about that. I really don't know. So you can say, well, how long is a piece of string? But again, dear listener, to say that the question should be difficult. If the examiner asks you why do people move house? You go, how long is a piece of string? A bit strange, right?

R: Well, how long is a piece of string is to do with like quantities of things.

M: It's like usually like, how many? What problems? Yeah? How many people? Something like that? Yeah?

R: Yeah.

M: When they're asking you for the number. And then you can talk about some issues with the language. So issues which are connected to language, culture, logistics. So when we are moving, and then like, if you can't communicate with your neighbors, that could be a problem.

R: Could be? It's definitely a problem.

M: Yeah. So you can talk about like culture shock, logistics, language barriers, right? We say barriers if you move to a different country. And then how do people solve the problems? You hire a teacher.

R: Yes. Well, you hire anyone to help you. Or you could get a teacher to teach you. Is that causative get? Or would it be you get English taught to you?

M: Oh, gosh, get English taught to you. Really? Is this natural?

R: It sounds overly complicated.

M: I want to get English taught to me. I want English done.

R: Get me that English.

M: Oh, God. No, no, no, it's crazy even to me. And I feel that it's a bit unnatural. You can get an English teacher you can get to know the culture of a different place. And then as for logistics, that's a nice thing. Like, oh, and speaking about logistics. As for logistics, you said some advanced planning never goes amiss.

R: Yes. So if you, well, if you do some advanced planning or if you plan things in advance, then you're just thinking about the future.

M: People who might get bored from staying in the same place forever are adventurous.

R: Or you could go passive voice people who get bored by staying in the same place.

M: Are more adventurous. You can say dull. It could be quite dull to stay in the same place forever. It's like me. I've always lived in Moscow. No, I leaved in other places.

R: Always? No.

M: No, I kind of I leaved like for a month. Does it count? So I've moved I think, I've moved house three times in Moscow. So yeah, I'm boring.

R: So it doesn't necessarily mean you're boring. You might have other things to like do with your life.

M: Well, in comparison to you, Rory, you are the mover of all movers. Oh, gosh, dear listener, if you...

R: Mover and shaker.

M: You are the mover and shaker of moving house. Yeah, you hire a moving company to help you with logistics. Have you actually, have you ever hired a moving company yourself?

R: No, I just did it myself. But then I don't really have that much that requires me to move around. Keep using the word move. But like there's not much to move. So why would you need to move in company? Maybe I got a taxi. That's the closest thing I've ever had a moving company experience, I guess.

M: Oh, wow. Wow. So if you're sitting somewhere listening to this thinking, oh, gosh, when I moved house, I had all these like vans and suitcases and furniture. And it took for ages and you know, they broke something. Rory just you know, picks one backpack, and off he goes. Isn't it lovely?

R: I'm very efficient.

M: You are super efficient. Wow. Okay, so when people stay in the same place, they could deprive themselves of opportunities elsewhere.

R: So if you deprive someone of something or you deprive yourself of something that just means that you don't get it, it's not allowed.

M: Then we talked about settling down. So you might be more inclined to settle down.

R: Yes. Now, there's two parts of this. So let's take the easiest one first. Settle down is... Gonna chance it and say it's a phrasal verb.

M: Yes, it's a phrasal verb.

R: Yeah, it's a phrasal verb. Whoo. Good. So settle down is a phrasal verb for becoming used to a place basically, or making your home somewhere. If you're inclined to something then that means that you are more likely to do something or you are more likely to want to do something. So for example, being claimed to settle down somewhere new. I would be inclined to talk about IELTS more than most people because I know more about it. Maria is more inclined to buy a pair of shoes.

M: Definitely. Yeah. You can say some people are more inclined to move house every year like Rory others are more inclined to settle down. So if we imagine that Rory after all his moving around with a backpack, he comes back to Moscow and he settles down. So he buys his own flat downtown with a view of the Kremlin, or somewhere in the Moscow City in a skyscraper. And he just settles down. He just stays in Moscow forever. Yes, Rory, that's your future. Now you know.

R: Yes, I'm cool with that.

M: Yeah. We can also talk about stability. When you settle down, you are kind of stable and you prefer stability after all moving around and all this hassle. Moving around all the time, yeah, stability. Then you can say something about owning your own home. So when you buy your own home, you say I own my own home. It's a bit strange, like own my own home. Own my own. I own my own.

R: Yes. But if you're not comfortable saying that, you can just say I have my own home.

M: Yeah. Instead of renting a place. Yeah. So the question of the universe, is it better to rent or to buy your own place? Then migration, so when people move, they migrate. We can talk about migration, is a trend. Yeah. And we can say people are moving around more, present continuous, right? Because we're talking about trends. So nowadays, people are moving around more, they have more freedom to move around, especially with this vaccines and pandemic, so people are free to move around, borders are not closed.

R: Well, aside from this major global event that's currently taking place, people have relatively more freedom compared to the past.

M: Yeah, true, true. And you can say, like, life is becoming more stable, or is becoming, people are moving. So again, use Present Continuous for these trends. So when the examiner asks you about the future, and it's a typical question, so will people move more in the future? You say most likely, or people will, or people are likely to move, or just again, describe the trend. People are moving more and they will move more. Right, dear listener, hopefully, we've given you some answers, ideas to talk about moving to new places. So now you know, who is the mover of all movers. Who is the mover and shaker. What does it mean, movers and shaker?

R: It's just people who have influence over something. Influencers.

M: Yeah. So for example, the movers and shakers of the IT world, of innovations, like Bill Gates, Elon Musk, our favorites. So we want to be the movers and shakers of IELTS podcasts. So we want to influence the world and bring something new, teach you all IELTS. So the movers and shakers, the powerful people who create things. Rory is the mover and shaker of all movers. Thank you very much for listening! We're gonna get back to you with new topics in our next premium episodes.

R: But we're not going to be talking about new things. Hopefully. Maybe this is just a one off for the new year.

M: No, no, no, no more new things.

R: Old things.

M: Old things. Good, old things. Well, we'll let you know about the topics for our new episodes. But for now bye! Bye-bye-bye-bye-ba-byeee!

R: Bye!

M: Rory say goodbye!

R: I said bye!

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