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Part 1

This episode's vocabulary

  • Shut away (phrasal verb) - to put something in a place where other people cannot see it or get it.
  • So to speak (phrase) - used to explain that what you are saying is not to be understood exactly as stated.
  • Route (noun) - a particular way or direction between places.
  • Driving test (noun) - a test of someone's ability to drive a car, which they must pass in order to get a driving licence.
  • Motion sickness (noun) - a feeling of being ill, especially of needing to vomit, that some people get in a moving vehicle.
  • Deprived (adj.) - not having the things that are necessary for a pleasant life, such as enough money, food, or good living conditions.
  • Uncommon (adj.) - not seen, happening, or experienced often.
  • Rite (noun) - (a usually religious ceremony with) a set of fixed words and actions.
  • Adept (adj.) - having a natural ability to do something that needs skill.
  • To retake (verb) - to take an exam again because you failed it the first time.
  • Drive sb up the wall (idiom) - to make someone extremely angry.


Questions and Answers

M: Rory, so let's talk about driving. Do you like driving?

R: I haven't driven myself in about 10 years. Though, I like being driven places. It's less work and I can shut away or relax while someone else does the heavy lifting, so to speak.

M: When was the last time you drove?

R: I have to think about that. I mean, if we mean as a passenger being driven somewhere, then it would probably be to the nursery this morning for my placement. As a driver though I imagine the route I took when I took and ultimately failed my first and last practical driving test.

M: Where do you like to sit in a car?

R: Well, ideally, wherever is the most comfortable. Usually, that's in the front passenger seats. Since I can avoid any motion sickness and speak to the person driving. That is unless it's a taxi, as I really hate speaking to taxi drivers. Sorry, any taxi drivers listening to us. But I just want to sit and listen to music when that happens.

M: Is driving common in your country?

R: I would say so, yes. I think most people where we live are car owners, or at least know how to drive. In more deprived areas that might be less so but it's not like cars are an uncommon sight even at that.

M: Is it hard to learn to drive?

R: Well, since I've yet to pass my test, I would certainly say so. I think it's a rite of passage that most people fail once actually. I'd need to check statistics on that, of course, but a few of my friends have failed their driving test the first time. Maybe we just aren't so adept at test-taking, to be honest.

M: Will you drive more in the future?

R: I hope so. After my teacher training course, I'm planning to retake my test and actually pass this time. It might be easier now that I'm a responsible adult and not a silly teenager.

M: Rory, thank you very much for your driving answers!

R: Hopefully they didn't drive you up the wall. Ha-ha-ha!



M: Yeah, when you say it drives me up the wall, it means like it drives me crazy. Like can you imagine like these questions drive me up the wall. So you're like, kind of like you are going up the wall. You are so annoyed that you're ready to go up the wall. Because of these questions. Yep. So it's really nice, nice expression. It drives me up the wall. Can I say you drive me up the wall?

R: Well, yes, but only if we're talking about people who drive you mad. Like you couldn't say it for a topic like driving.

M: Oh, can you say like, oh, this taxi drivers drive me up the wall?

R: Yeah, they do.

M: Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. Rory is now in Scotland and where you live, there aren't any taxi drivers. There's no Uber. No Yandex taxis. Am I right? You don't have anything?

R: No, nothing like that.

M: Oh, wow. So if you don't drive, then what? You take a bus or a horse, a sheep, donkey? How do you travel?

R: By car, I told you. I get dropped off where I need to be.

M: Oh, how convenient. And it's nice when Rory said, I haven't driven myself in about 10 years. So I haven't driven a car. I like being driven to places. So this is a passive voice. I like to be driven. Or you said, I like being driven to places, which means I like when people drive me to places. I like being driven to places. So Rory doesn't drive himself. Other people do it for him. Very nice. Wow. So every day somebody would just give you a lift?

R: Yes. It's not quite as convenient as Uber, but it's there.

M: Hmm, I have to take a taxi every day. Well, if I go out, and I need to go to the metro. So to get to the metro, I need to take a taxi. So because I've decided not to drive, but I do have a driving license. And Rory, you said that the last time you drove a car was when you failed your first and last practical driving test. So you did apply for the driving license and you failed the exam?

R: No, no, we're not discussing that story other than just say I didn't pass my driving test.

M: Oh, why not?

R: The details are best kept under lock and key.

M: If you're not sure about the answer, you can say that I'd have to think about that. So when was the last time I'd have to think about that, I would have to think about that. Yeah? Then you can say a passenger, and a passenger is being driven. Again, dear listener, here we have a passive voice structure. So I enjoy being driven. Or I enjoy driving, if you like driving. And then you can say, as a driver, like being a driver. The word is the route. The route.

R: Yeah, that's just like the way that you travel from one place to another.

M: The question could be about sitting in a car. So it's sit in a car, I prefer the... What's it? In the front. So I enjoy sitting in the front of a car or just say in the front, to avoid motion sickness. You know this...

R: You can say motion sickness. You can also say car sickness.

M: And then you can mention that, oh, I hate speaking to taxi drivers. Yeah, I just prefer listening to the music. Driving can be common in your country. So it's quite common. Everybody drives a car. And then you said in more deprived areas.

R: Yes. So deprived areas is just another way of saying places with no money.

M: Like poor, poorer areas, yeah? Common or uncommon. So cars are an uncommon sight in poorer areas. And then when you talk about learning to drive, you take a test. We call it taking a driving test. And you said that we just aren't so adept at test-taking.

R: Yes. So if you're adept at something, it means that you're quite good at it. Or you're extremely good at it, actually.

M: And now Rory said, I'm planning to retake my test. So to retake or redo the test, to pass it this time. Rory, let's imagine that you take the test, you pass it and then you are buying a car. So which car would you buy? You have some choices, a Ferrari, a Jaguar, Nissan, Lexus, Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, Lamborghini, or the Rolls Royce? So you have plenty of money. The podcast is like superduper popular. So which car would you go for?

R: I don't think it matters. Whichever one is the the cheapest insurance basically because I'd be driving it for a long time.

M: So is it a Ferrari, the Rolls Royce or Jaguar?

R: I have absolutely no idea. I imagine they all are pretty expensive for someone of my age to drive.

M: Interesting, dear listener. So which car do you see Rory in? Like James Bond car? Sweet. Thank you very much for listening! Hopefully, we've given you some driving vocabulary, which doesn't drive you up the wall.

R: But if it does, then you'll have a pun!

M: Bye!

R: Bye!


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