This episode's vocabulary
- To get along (phrasal verb) - if two or more people get along, they like each other and are friendly to each other.
- To be at loggerheads - to strongly disagree (with someone).
- Row (noun) - a noisy argument or fight.
- To wind up (phrasal verb) - if you wind someone up, you deliberately say things which annoy them.
- Spectator (noun) - a person who watches an activity, especially a sports event, without taking part.
- Provocative (adj.) - causing an angry reaction, usually intentionally.
- Name-calling (noun) - the act of insulting someone by calling them rude names.
- To shove (verb) - to push someone or something forcefully.
- Bickering (noun) - arguments about things that are not important.
- To intervene (verb) - to intentionally become involved in a difficult situation in order to improve it or prevent it from getting worse.
- Putt an end to sth. (phrase) - to make something stop happening or existing.
- Fine (adj.) - very exact and delicate, or needing to be done, treated, or considered very carefully.
- The gist (noun) - the most important pieces of information about something, or general information without details.
- Doubtless (adverb) - used to mean that you are certain that something will happen or is true.
- Hindsight (noun) - the ability to understand, after something has happened, why or how it was done and how it might have been done better.
- Momentary (adj.) - for a very short time.
- Thrill (noun) - lasting a feeling of extreme excitement, usually caused by something pleasant.
- Collected (adj.) - showing control over your feelings.
Questions and Answers
M: Rory, are you ready?
M: Are you gonna tell us about Scottish people arguing?
R: We'll get there.
M: Okay. Off you go.
R: Well, it's funny because most of my friends get along quite well with each other the vast majority of the time, and really, they only argue for comedic effect. So I suppose I'll just have to make this one up as I go along. Anyway, about two years ago in high school, two of my peers who were constantly at loggerheads decided that they would have yet another row. This time it was about football teams. I'm not really sure who started the whole thing. But they had a habit of winding each other up. so once the ball got rolling, it was hard to stop them. If I'm honest, I'm not really sure why they argued with each other this time, though, at this point, it'd become a kind of sport for spectators to watch and not really do much about. So it went like it always did., making provocative comments, name-calling, pushing and shoving, and, of course, all the usual bickering. I'm also rather sure that it ended the same way with some authority figure intervening and putting an end to all. It was so long ago, I don't really recall all the fine details, but I'm pretty sure that's the gist of it. Like I said, I tend to hang around more mature people these days. And there's a lot less conflict as a result. Doubtless, at the same time, I was joining in with the spectating along with everyone else if we talked about back in the day. But in hindsight, it seems like this was the momentary thrill and as soon as it was done, it was forgotten about by most if not all involved. So yeah, I don't really have much to say about arguments, to be honest with you. Because in terms of high school it was so long ago, I don't really remember the details. And then if I speak about the people that I'm with now, we don't really have arguments, we just have calm, collected discussions, which is how it should be, shouldn't it?
M: Have you told other people about this?
R: No, I just told you because I just made it up.
M: Wow, what an answer. Dear listener, did you hear all those gorgeous phrases and super words? Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. So the topic, describe a time when you saw two of your friends having an argument. First of all, what do we understand by an argument?
R: It's when two people have a disagreement. Well, two or more people have a disagreement. There's usually two or more sides. And this is how we resolve it.
M: Yeah, exactly. So they argue, they have a disagreement. So they are having an argument. We use this word for example, like this, they had an argument about something or over something, or argue with people about, over something. You can also say they got into an argument with other people. And it was a heated argument. Or heated argument without the article?
R: Well, you could have, no, no. It's always a heated argument.
M: A heated argument, yeah, cool.
R: You get into an argument as well.
M: Yeah. Argue with people. They were arguing about something or over something. Rory, you did super well using different synonyms. Gosh...
R: Yes. Even though the story is completely made up.
M: Yeah, yeah , yeah, you did well with the vocabulary. You said they had a row.
R: Yes. A row is another word for an argument where people are, well, it's more of a fight. An argument can be a discussion between two sides or it can be a full-blown fight but a row is always a fight.
M: Yeah, a noisy argument or fight. My parents often have rows, for example. And you talked about your two friends at high school and they would have rows. Like they would have - they usually had rows. And then you said like they had a habit of winding each other up.
R: Yes. So if you wind people up, that means that you make them become progressively angrier and angrier or and more and more annoyed.
M: Like don't wind me up.
R: Another way of saying that you're constantly winding each other up is to say you're at loggerheads. And that's just another way of saying that you don't like each other and you're always fighting.
M: So two of my peers who were constantly at loggerheads decided to have a row. So, to be at loggerheads is it British American or universal?
R: I think it's a British thing. I've never really heard Americans use it, mostly because it requires a refined understanding of language which most Americans don't possess. Come at me, Americans. Come at me. Come at me, bro.
M: Yeah, so to be at loggerheads with somebody is to strongly disagree with someone. Oh, for example, like, the principal and the teachers were at loggerheads over some of the new school rules.
R: Yes, but none of I was in charge.
M: Rory's peers were constantly at loggerheads. At loggerheads? Yeah, okay.
R: It's at loggerheads. Always at loggerheads.
M: With somebody and they had rows all the time. They had a habit of winding each other up. Really good lexis here, right. So they argued all the time, you can say, yeah, but you did say they argued with each other, which is okay. And then you went into the specific details what they did. They were making provocative comments or they did name-calling.
R: Yes. So name-calling is just a way of saying you call someone a nasty name.
M: Yeah. So they did all the pushing and shoving and of course, the usual bickering, Bickering? Ah, what?
R: Yeah, bickering is just like, going back and forth and calling each other things and just generally having exchange of views that's not very pleasant.
M: Yeah, bickering - arguments about things that are not important. You can say, for example, oh, I'm tired of all their constant bickering. So to bicker is to argue about things that are not important. Will you stop bickering? Or like, they're always bickering with each other about what topic, what coincidence to use in this episode. Yeah. So to bicker with somebody about or over some problems, which are not important. So, Rory's peers at high school did all the pushing and shoving and, of course, the usual bickering, they also made provocative comments. And Rory, Rory, you were not involved in this argument, right? Which you made up?
R: Well, I made it up. So no, I wasn't involved. I was just watching. Or if you're just watching you could say I was spectating.
M: Yep. I was spectating, and then some mature people, authority figures put an end to it all. So they finished the argument.
R: So an argument can start up between two people, but someone puts an end to it, which is to finish it. FINISH HIM.
R: MORTAL KOMBAT.
M: In hindsight. That's a nice one.
R: Yes. In hindsight just means when I look back on it, perhaps I wouldn't have been so silly.
M: Yeah. If your friends usually like each other, you can say they get along well with each other. Oh, that's a tricky topic for me to talk about because my friends get along with each other. Right. And now you ask me to describe an argument they once had, so it's quite tricky for me. And then Rory used his Scottish strategy. I suppose I'll just have to make this up as I go along.
R: But you can make things up as you go along. I frequently do.
M: Yep. And it's okay to make it up. If you don't know or you don't remember a time when you saw two of your friends having an argument, you can make it up. And is it a good thing just to tell the examiner that I'm gonna make it up, you know?
R: Well, who knows? The way I see it, you could just say like, well... You have to tell them something, and why not use that as an excuse to use all of these phrasal verbs like to make something up, make it up as you go along.
M: Yeah, well, because an examiner usually understands that so this topic is, well, it could be quite tricky, right? If you've never been a witness of somebody else's argument, yeah?
R: Yeah. Some people have like quite tranquil lives. I don't really see why we should be like... It's such as strange question.
M: It is. Yeah. Oh, well, and how did you feel about it? How did you feel about the argument?
R: I said, look, in hindsight, it seems like it was a momentary thrill. So I was thrilled for a very short period of time.
M: Yeah. I was thrilled. Like, oh, wow. Yeah, dear listener, make sure that you do remember a time when you saw two of your friends have an argument, a row, or make it up. You can talk about us having an argument. So Rory and Maria having an argument over, should we spend all money on my shoes or should we invest all our money in, in what?
R: In this podcast.
M: Yay, shoes of course, shoes. So now we're having a row. Rory, shut up. No, you shut up, Maria.
R: No, you shut up, no, you shut up.
M: Yeah, now, then we started making provocative comments. name-calling, pushing and shoving online, virtual. We did some virtual pushing and shoving because I'm in Moscow, Rory is in Scotland. Freedom. So yeah, dear listener, there you go, this is your story. Okay. Thank you very much for listening! And we'll come back in the next episode in speaking part three.
R: When we talk more about arguments.
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