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Leasure

Part 3

This episode's vocabulary


  • Chore (noun) - a job or piece of work that is often boring or unpleasant but needs to be done regularly.
  • Convenience (noun) - a device or machine, usually in the house, that operates quickly and needs little effort.
  • Automation (noun) - the use of machines and computers that can operate without needing human control.
  • Complexity (noun) - the state of having many parts and being difficult to understand or find an answer to.
  • Permissible (adj.) - allowed.
  • To diversify (verb) - to start to include more different types or things.
  • Run-of-the-mill (idiom) - ordinary and not special or exciting in any way.
  • In a nutshell (idiom) - very briefly, giving only the main points.
  • Scope (noun) - the range of a subject covered by a book, programme, discussion, class, etc.
  • Niche (adj.) - interesting to, aimed at, or affecting only a small number of people.
  • Globalization (noun) - a situation in which available goods and services, or social and cultural influences, gradually become similar in all parts of the world.
  • Time off (noun) - a period of time when you do not work because of illness or holidays, or because your employer has given you permission to do something else.
  • Cooperative (adj.) - willing to help or do what people ask.
  • To poke someone in the right direction - to encourage someone.

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Questions and Answers


M: Rory, let's talk about leisure in general. Who has more leisure time men or women?

R: I have absolutely no idea. I don't even know how you would begin to calculate that. You'd need to think about I don't know how people spend their time on work and doing chores. My guess would be they're roughly the same.

M: Do people have more free time now than in the past?

R: That's a good question. So I suppose the obvious answer is yes. But well, because of all the modern conveniences we have like white goods, the internet and automation. On the other hand, sort of increasing complexity of life has led to work intruding into our homes, still, we at least have more choice, if not more time.

M: What's the difference in the way people spend their free time now and 20 or 30 years ago?

R: Well, people still largely do what they want within the scope of what's available and permissible. In terms of change, I think they've diversified a lot, since you can do a great deal more like gliding or other extreme sports. And then you can read, which is always rather run of the mill, or sorry, which was always rather run of the mill. But you have a greater selection of material to choose from. So in a nutshell, we probably have more choices than ever, I guess.

M: What do people in your country do in their spare time?

R: Well, like I said, whatever they want in the scope of what's possible for them. I think shared interests include sports clubs, and going out. But there are other things, like I recently found out we have a Russian speakers club. So there are some very niche interests out there and lots of diversity.

M: But do you think these activities are quite the same all over the world?

R: Well, now yes. Because of, well, the phenomenon of globalization.

M: Is leisure time important for everyone?

R: I would say so, though, probably, to varying extents. I mean, if you're someone like me, then my work and my hobbies are essentially one in the same. So I could do it less, despite what my other half says. Still, I like having time off. And I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't need to recharge their batteries from time to time. There are people that claim this, but they're usually the first people who should be taking more regular breaks.

M: What types of outdoor activities are popular in your country?

R: I'm not sure how on earth I'm supposed to know that. But if I were to guess I would say sports and walking, or some variation or combination of the two. We have a lot of mountain ranges. So mountaineering and hiking are likely top picks, but I'm not really an expert about this.

M: Do people have time for themselves nowadays?

R: Well, I would say so given all the advantages we have in terms of knowledge and technology and awareness. However, whether people are taking that time for themselves or using it well is another matter entirely.

M: What kinds of people are easy to get along with?

R: Well, the obvious answer is to say kind and cooperative people. But if we dig deeper, it might be better to say people who compliment and challenge us in appropriate ways. So by that, I mean people who encourage us to be our best selves, and not by just agreeing with whatever we say. But by holding us to our like stated values and poking us in the right direction. Those people make for the best friends.

M: How do leaders get along with their subordinates?

R: Well, I often wonder if they do I mean, surely the point of being a leader is to lead and not to be liked, but they still have to get things done. So having a shared vision of how things should be in the goal they're working towards would be a good start. I'd imagine paying people a lot and treating them like human beings with their own thoughts and feelings also helps.

M: Thank you Rory for your lovely answers!

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Discussion


M: Okay, so we have leisure time, or spare time, or free time. Everything would be fine to say yeah, so they are all synonyms, right? Leisure time, spare time, free time.

R: Pretty much, yeah.

M: And then some questions are ridiculous. Like, who has more leisure time men or women? Like seriously?

R: How are you supposed to know that? Like...

M: Like, like, like, oh, yeah, IELTS people, especially in speaking part three enjoy this like men versus women issue. Also young people and the elderly, parents and children, teachers and children. Yeah. And then, dear listener, you can just say I have absolutely no idea. So this is normal. This is natural. You react to the question. So if you have no idea, just say like, I have absolutely no idea. Some other reactions from Rory today. That's a good question. So you know, like, okay, let's compare free time now and in the past. That's a good question. And then when he wasn't sure he went, I'm not sure how on earth I'm supposed to know that. And Rory sounded a bit angry even. Did you?

R: Oh, did I?

M: So back to planetariums. Will planetariums change in the future and you go, I'm not sure how on earth I'm supposed to know that. Meaning that, okay, like, I have no idea.

R: Although it's quite, it's a pun because how on earth am I supposed to know that? And it's the planetarium. It's a pun.

M: It's a pun. A pun is a play on words. But then you continue like, okay, if I were to guess I'd say that, but still you do say something? Okay? If I were to guess, I'd say that. The second conditional, it's really good. So if I were to guess, or if I were to say, if I were to give an answer, I'd say that. And then you can react that the obvious answer is, and then you continue. Again, if you have no idea, you can just say that I have absolutely no idea and it sounds natural. Then you can also say, my guess would be, and then you continue. So my guess would be they are roughly the same. My guess would be men and women have the same amounts of free time. And then we have all the modern conveniences. So home comforts, offline versus online, yeah, and then the modern conveniences, such as the Internet. Everything is automated, automated. Automated, yeah?

R: Automated, yeah. Well, automation is like the process.

M: And then like we have more choice, if not more time. Interesting. Like people are always complaining about lack of time.

R: No, what are they doing with their time?

M: I have no idea. It's the N-word. N-word. Netflix.

R: Netflix, pay us money.

M: Yeah, so a typical question is what is going on now, compared to the past, right? So make sure you use past. People used to, or we didn't use to have much time. But now we have even less time. Yes, something like it's changed. So present perfect could be used.

R: I said in a nutshell.

M: You did, again.

R: It's because people kept saying that no one says it and I'm bringing it back.

M: Then a standard question. What do people in your country do in their spare time? Well, they watch Netflix, play video games. Get drunk.

R: I love this, though. I said I'm not sure how on earth I'm supposed to say that to know that even.

M: No, no, this you said for another question.

R: I also said it for what types of outdoor countries, sorry, what types of outdoor activities are popular in your country?

M: Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. Yep. Yeah, when you speak about spare time, you can use this people need to recharge their batteries, you know, standard expression. Unwind, they need to unwind. Take more regular breaks from work, Rory. And an outdoor activities and indoor activities. Rory mentioned mountaineering, hiking, again swimming. Here you can go with such sophisticated words as spelunking which is climbing in caves.

R: No, it's crawling in caves.

M: Or something like underwater weaving, underwater weaving, basket weaving, underwater.

R: And then we talked about people getting along. I mentioned kind, cooperative, compliment and challenge holding to stated values and poking in the right direction.

M: If you poke in the right direction. No, no, like, people poke each other in the right direction or somebody pokes you?

R: Encourage each other.

M: So Vanya pokes us in the right direction, yeah?

R: When he deigns to honor us with his presence.

M: So he kind of encourages us, shows us the right direction. Okay, listen to our podcast, and have more time for yourself. Enjoy your life. Hugs and kisses.

R: But until next time, bye!

M: Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye bye!

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