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Part 2

Describe a family member that made you feel proud

This episode's vocabulary

  • Arm-twisting (noun) - behaviour in which you try to make someone do something by threats or by persuading them forcefully.
  • Prominent (adj.) - very well known and important.
  • Be your own person - to be in control of your life and not allow other people to tell you what to do.
  • To pan out (phrasal verb) - to develop in a particular way or in a successful way.
  • Encouragement (noun) - words or behaviour that give someone confidence to do something.
  • Identity (noun) - who a person is, or the qualities of a person or group that make them different from others.
  • Perturbance/perturbation (noun) - worry.


Questions and Answers

M: Rory, are you ready to rock and roll? To Rory rock and roll?

R: I am proud to say that I am. Behold my puns.

M: Are you ready to Rory roll?

R: I'm ready to rock and roll. Right.

M: Go, Rory, go.

R: This will be difficult because I'm proud of everyone in my family. But if I'm having my arm twisted on this particular occasion, then I suppose I should speak about my cousin, Callum. He's about half my age and going to a prominent university in Scotland to study languages. I think it's great that someone in our family has chosen to do this, and has gotten into this university. Since on our side of things, we usually focus on business or arts. And it's great to see someone doing something different for a change and being their own person. Since it's a lifestyle choice, this is sort of an ongoing thing. But I think it will pan out great. And he'll really make something of himself and his life. It's probably important to point out that everyone else in my family has done something similar in that sense. So it's not like I'm picking favorites here. I think it's important to be proud of your family, regardless of what they do, although provided that they are doing the right things. It provides encouragement, and gives you a sense of wider identity in place in the world and relation to how you connect with other people. So that's how I feel, and hopefully everyone else in the family shares this feeling too. However, if they didn't, then you know, I would have to tell them, because of course, sometimes when someone decides to do something very different, then it can cause a little bit of, I don't know, a perturbance in terms of people's feelings. But there's no reason for that. Because I think it's entirely in keeping with the sort of culture of our family that you do something and you do something well, and this time they've just decided to do something a little bit different. So here's hoping that everything goes according to plan.

M: Does this person make other members of your family proud?

R: I would definitely say so. We all make each other proud, I suppose.

M: Thank you, Rory! That was great. Well done you!



M: Yes, dear listener, in speaking part two, they can give you such a card with a topic "describe a family member that's made you feel proud". So now could you think of this person and be ready to talk about this topic? Okay? Rory talked about his cousin. Callum. Right? Hello, Callum, if you're listening to a premium episode.

R: I don't think he will be, I think he'll be very busy at university.

M: Yeah. And Rory's cousin made him feel proud because he entered a prominent university in Scotland. A prominent university like prestigious. Yeah?

R: Yeah. I don't know why I didn't say prestigious, but because prestigious is to do with having atmosphere of...

M: Prestige.

R: Well, it's to do with having prestige. But that doesn't explain anything. It's to do with being seen to be one of the best places. It's the one that you think of that describes what a good example of something is, whereas prominent is like it's leading the way, it's out in the front.

M: Yeah.

R: They're similar, but they describe somewhat different things.

M: We are very happy for your cousin, Callum and his prominent university. Yeah. And Rory, it was funny, you said that, if I'm having my arm twisted in this respect, I'll speak about my cousin. If I'm having my arm twisted.

R: That was me buying time. You will notice probably when you look back on this recording that there's a lot of filler in here because I didn't really know what to say.

M: Yeah, these expressions are called time buyers. Buyers like they buy time for you because sometimes the topic is horrendous. Like this topic is really hard, tricky, or could be quite tricky, because you will you have no idea what to say or possibly. That's why Rory goes, this will be difficult because I'm proud of everyone in my family. And then he goes, but if I'm having my arm twisted. If I had to give you the answer, if I had to choose one person, then I'll speak about or I'd speak about. If I had, I'd speak about, but Rory used a creative expression. If I'm having my arm twisted, then I'll speak about my cousin. Yep. Cool. And then you said that it's great that someone in our family has chosen to do this.

R: Yes.

M: Present perfect.

R: Has chosen and gotten into.

M: Gotten into this university. Yeah. So like, two specific actions that this person has done to make you feel proud. And then you said like being their own person, so to be their own person.

R: Yes. So to be your own person is to do something different that you truly believe in. You're not influenced by other people when it comes to making your decisions.

M: Could you give us another example with to be my own person?

R: Yes. She is being her own person.

M: And then you said, since it's a lifestyle choice, this is blah, blah, blah. So since it's a lifestyle choice, since it means because. Because it's a lifestyle choice, this is bla bla bla bla bla. That's a nice one. Because usually we say because but here you've used since. Since it's life choice, I'm happy about this decision. And it will pan out great.

R: Yeah, I like that. I like to use the word pan out or phrasal verb pan out. And if you like phrasal verbs, then you will love our phrasal verbs course

M: It's our premium episode, stop it, stop all the promotion now.

R: It's like a Pavlovian response, I must, I must do this. Anyway, back to pan out. Pan out is to talk about the end result, it's a way of talking about the result of something. But when you when something pans out, it's like a great effort, to pan out. Whereas if you talk about in the end, there could be at the end of a long process, whereas to pan out could be part of like a larger process. They're slightly different. But related.

M: Yeah, for example, their attempt to start a new business didn't pan out, or he started his new business, and it all paned out. Like it all developed in a particular and successful way. Yeah. So it didn't pan out or it panned out. And then you said, I think it's important to be proud of your family, provided they are doing the right things. Provided it means if they are doing the right things, and nice expression here. Can we use any synonyms to be proud? Like I'm proud of my family or anything? Not really?

R: Pleased with? Pleased for? Pleased at? So you're pleased at a result or an action, pleased with the results of something or pleased with a person, pleased for someone.

M: And also you can say if you're using proud, so I'm proud of my cousin. I'm proud of my whoever it is. I'm proud of Rory. Yeah, you're, you're like my what? Vanya is our uncle and Rory, you are?

R: I'm me. Hi!

M: Ah, you're Rory. Oka, Rory. Good. We are proud of you. Well done.

R: Thank you.

M: Whatever you've done.

R: Should we also talk about the grammar?

M: Yes. Please tell us everything about the grammar, especially about the conditionals.

R: There's a conditional. In addition to having my arm twisted I said, I'm having my arm twisted then, which is a conditional sentence.

M: Yep. If sentences are really cool.

R: Do you know what else is cool? Is my use of alternatives to because. I said since it's a lifestyle choice.

M: I know and also you've used provided. Usually people tend to use if but provided that would be a nice alternative. Also, dear listener, if you're talking about a member of your family, and about something that they did in the past, but with the present result, make sure to use present perfect. Okay? So they've entered a prominent university or they've set up a business. They've done this, they haven't done that. So this answer will be full of present perfect. What did you say at the very end of your talk? You said something...

R: Oh, perturbs or perturbs. It just means that you are upset someone's feelings. I was trying to think of the word for upset but I couldn't quite remember the word upset. So I said perturbs instead. Perturbed - feeling anxiety or concern.Pperturbed.

M: Oh God, perturbed. Wow. That's a formal word. Perturbed, worried. He didn't seem perturbed by the news. Oh Gosh, he didn't seem worried, perturbed. Can you use flustered here? So like to be flustered to be upset or confused.

R: I think that would work.

M: You look flustered. You look upset or confused. Okay, dear listener, so this could be a tricky topic. So make sure now you know what you're going to be talking about. Again, a family member could be a cousin, it could be your grandma, father, mother, or you can make it up. Make up this person. Okay? You can imagine that Rory is your uncle. Okay? Uncle Rory.

R: Your young attractive uncle.

M: Rory. Yeah, Scottish uncle. So your Scottish uncle Rory Duncan Goodwilly. Oops. I forgot all your title.

R: Just go on with the metaphor.

M: Yeah, so your Scottish uncle Rory started a podcast and this made you feel proud and talk about Rory. Okay. Yeah, solved it. Cool. Now you know what to talk about. Haha. And then you can advertise our podcast to your examiner. That would be awesome. Can you imagine, Rory? In the exam, you go like, yeah, my uncle Roy started a podcast. Actually, you should listen to it because...

R: Love a bit of advertising. I'm sure the examiner will be thrilled.

M: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then go, oh, wait, I'm gonna write this website down, okay? You just like remember it. Awesome. Yeah, dear listener, you can do that. Thank you for listening! And we'll see you in speaking part three!

R: Bye!

M: Bye!


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