This episode's vocabulary
- Plaid (noun) - a pattern of squares and lines on cloth, or cloth with this pattern.
- Appeal (noun) - a request to the public for money, information, or help.
- The latter - the second of two people, things, or groups previously mentioned.
- To quantify (verb) - to measure or judge the size or amount of something.
- To preserve (verb) - to keep something as it is, especially in order to prevent it from decaying or being damaged or destroyed.
- Cuisine (noun) - a style of cooking.
Questions and Answers
M: Let's talk about traditional products. What are the traditional products in your country?
R: Well, anything tartan usually. It's important to distinguish that from plaid or check patterns, because those really only have about two colors. And they don't distinguish you as being part of a community whereas tartan definitely does. We also explore Angus beef and Scotch, well, scotch whiskey in America, Scottish whiskey in Europe, although I really can't see the appeal of the latter myself in terms of the whiskey because I just don't like the taste. I think the main ones really are food and drink, though. Our industry is mostly like manufacturing and that's sold within the country. So that's not very traditional, either, since it's modern.
M: Why are traditional products important?
R: I suppose they create a great sense of connection to a particular culture or and place. They mark out a place out as distinctive in some way, and maybe impart some of the feeling behind how people live and feel is a difficult thing to quantify. You either get or you don't, really.
M: Many people think tradition is important for our country. Why?
R: Well, I'm hardly an expert. But if I were to guess it's because of the needs to preserve one's culture and saw their understanding of the world. If you don't have traditions, then there's no connection to the past and to those who have come before. And in addition to that no sense of place in the world that you can use as a basis for moving forward into the future.
M: And what's the value of traditions?
R: Well, I would say they're priceless. I, some will be obviously greater importance than others. But I mean, traditions are made of a big part of people's cultures, like I said, so. And that holds the world together for a lot of people, or at least it holds together their understanding. So if that was to fall apart, then that would be, that would be really bad for them.
M: Why is it important for children to learn about traditional products?
R: I suppose they're expected to carry on at least some of the traditions that make up a culture, well, the culture of a place, or at the very least understand them and where they came from, and why they might be important. For example, if everyone in Italy forgot how to make the cuisine that is made there, it would definitely lose one of its defining features, or the culture of Italy would lose one of its defining features, both to itself and to others.
M: And why do traditional products attract tourists?
R: Probably for much the same reason they attract people that already live in the country. Tourists don't just go to take photographs, they got to experience what it's like to live in a place. And so part of that is taking back some traditional products to share and to use to recall the time that they spent there.
M: And do you think in the future, people will preserve their traditional products and tourists will keep on buying them in the future?
R: I suppose that will depend if they're sustainably sourced or not, I mean, if it's something like water, I mean, Scottish water is sold around the UK, for example, and that's pretty much limitless. But if it was something like an endangered species that has to be sustainably hunted, then you couldn't just keep on exporting that at like ridiculous rates because the thing would go extinct.
M: Why do people like to buy imported products?
R: I suppose it's possible they can be more cheaply manufactured elsewhere. That's why lots of you to buy things from China, for example, because it's cheaper to manufacture things in China and other countries in Eastern Asia. And I think that is the big thing, to be honest. It's to do with the cost. And possibly you can only get them in that particular country. For example, I think you can only get certain products from Japan. And that's all, because they're only made there. They aren't made anywhere else, and they can't be made anywhere else.
M: Thank you, Rory, for your lovely answers in a traditional style!
R: Hopefully, they were productive!
M: So, traditional products, we can also say traditional goods. But we don't paraphrase traditional. So...
R: What traditional products do people have in Russia?
M: Again, as I've told you, we have different souvenirs like the Russian doll, this amber, also jewelry from amber, which is pretty expensive. Then we have samovar, for example, this thing. How can you translate it? I don't know. Samovar is this equipment for storing hot water when you drink tea. It's called samovar. And then we have caviar, for example, honey.
R: So, lot's of pretty good stuff.
M: Yum, yum, yum. The examiner can also ask you about traditions in general. So are traditions important? Should we keep our traditions? What about the future? And also some, like products, which are imported. So imported products or local products, for example. What else can the examiner ask about? So traditional products? Why are they attractive for tourists? Or local products? Traditional products? Imported goods? What else?
R: I think that's about it, really.
M: Traditions in a family, for example.
R: Maybe traditional ways of living?
M: Traditional ways of living. Yeah. Have traditions changed over the years, for example? Oh, by the way, so we were talking about imported products. And recently, I've read a piece of news that in Britain, fish and chips. Yeah, so fish used to be imported. So for fish and chips, from Russia to the UK.
R: That wouldn't surprise me.
M: And kind of like 30% of fish in fish and chips was imported from Russia. And I was like, wow, really? Don't you guys have seas around the British Isles to kind of to get fish from? Is it true? Do you know anything about it?
R: Well, I think the consumption of it's increased so much that you'd have to buy it from other countries. The other thing as well is the species that are used for making fish and chips, I think, change from year to year, or at least from certain periods of time. So some years, it's codfish, other years it's another kind of fish. And they do that so that different kinds of fish aren't hunted or fished into extinction. I think that's how it's supposed to work. But whether it's as simple as that is not something I know much about.
M: Wow. Because it's interesting, yeah? For your traditional products, fish and chips. You instead of choosing your local fish, you import fish. So this is just like interesting, yeah? You would imagine that for traditional products you would use like local stuff, but kind of yeah, not always, you know.
M: Sweet. Back to our vocabulary and grammar. So, the examiner might ask you about your country. So traditional products in your country and, dear listener, make sure you give two or three examples. So Rory told us about tartan. Tartan is what? Is a pattern? Yes? So kind of material.
R: Yeah. I didn't actually explain it very well at all. I should have said it's on kilts. But you can also have on scarves, hats, shirts, just about any kind of clothing you care to name.
M: Everybody should know what tartan is. So, yeah.
R: They should. But sometimes they don't. Sometimes they confuse these things.
M: Yeah, so if the examiner is looking at you weirdly like what? What did you just say? You can explain what you mean by this. Yeah? Then Rory talked about Angus, Angus beef you said? Angus?
R: I think that's what it's called. I'm pretty sure it's this kind of beef or a breed of cow.
M: Yeah, and Scottish whiskey. Surely as traditional Scottish products. We say that we manufacture, manufacture products. or the process of manufacturing goods and products. Rory said that our industry, Scottish industry is mostly light manufacturing. That's not very traditional. What did you mean by light manufacturing?
R: Well, it's best to compare it to what it's not. You have light and heavy manufacturing. So heavy manufacturing would be like producing chips. And well, I think that's my favorite thing, to be honest with you, for describing that. Light manufacturing is things like, well, it could be creating wind turbine fins, for example. Or bottle making production, it's usually not so expensive, it usually doesn't involve a huge number of people. Whereas if you're in shipbuilding, heavy industry, you can see this in China. And I think in India as well, you have massive shipyards, and it's so many people there. Whereas we don't really have that many people. So it's difficult to have heavy industry.
M: Yeah, perhaps in Scotland they have more cows than people. You know, cows.
R: Let's check.
M: Do we have more cows than people? How many cows do have in Scotland?
R: Oh, no. There are 1.7 million cattle. And hat's a trend that's been going down since 1974, when there were 2.78 million cattle. So roughly speaking, there are about three times as many people as there are cows.
M: Why are traditional products important? Well, you can say that they create a sense of connection to a particular culture. So traditional products create a sense of connection to a particular place, or a culture. They are distinctive, right. So distinctive, like particular, the specific, you said that we need to preserve one's culture. So Preserve is like to save, to keep.
R: Yeah, or just to, how best to say... Because save makes it sound like it's in danger. But preserve or conserve might be better, just because it means it doesn't change.
M: So we should preserve our traditional products, we should preserve our culture. Also, if we don't have traditions, there is no connection to the past. So you can talk about the connection to the past. And also traditional products to remember the past and blah, blah, blah. And also children should learn about traditional products, and some traditions that make up the culture of a place. So that's a nice one. Some traditions make up the culture of some places, they kind of contribute to the culture. They add to the culture of a place. A very nice example was about Italy. And, dear listener, yes, it's great to give examples of different countries. So for example, in Italy, for example, if everyone in Italy forgot how to make pasta, what would happen? A disaster? Nice rhythms. Yeah, could you imagine that? Like people just like, forgot how to make pizza? What??? In Italy?
R: Then that wouldn't be Italy anymore.
M: Yes. Yeah, there won't be Italy. There won't be like half of Europe, right? Because, like people would starve to death. Like, what, there's no pizza? What? We forgot how to make pizza. Aaa! Yeah. So you see, this is a very nice example. And as we know, there are plenty of traditions in Italy, like connected to cuisine. So cuisine is food of the country. For example, Russian cuisine, I can say Russian food, but to be full, super cool and full of awesomeness, I use not food but I say cuisine. Cuisine. Don't say cousin, please. So Italian cuisine. What's your favorite cuisine? Russian cuisine?
R: I don't know, actually. I just quite like food, to be honest with you.
M: No, but would you prefer Indian cuisine or, I don't know. Italian cuisine? Maybe Asian cuisine?
R: You have no idea how open my standards are in this sense, because I can just see anything and it's fine.
R: Who am I asking? He ate dog. So he just genuinely puts all the stuff in his mouth. All right. Moving on.
R: Now rude.
M: Imported products. Yeah. And Rory said that some people might buy imported products because of the costs. So it's cheaper to buy imported products, then local ones, right? Also, it's cheaper to manufacture them to make this product, to produce the products.
R: Any good grammar?
M: If you don't have traditions, there is no connection to the past. Our conditional sentence and also about Italy. If everyone in Italy forgot how to make the cuisine, it would lose one of its defining features. You see, and here, this is the second conditional, because Rory thinks it's unlikely. He doesn't believe it, but it's kind of like, what if, let's imagine so if everyone in Italy forgot, it would lose. Yeah? So it's not real. So well done. Look at your conditionals.
R: I know. I am a big fan of the conditionals right now. But did you notice? We have our secret structure again. I'm hardly an expert, but if I were to guess.
M: Yes. So are traditions important for a country? And then you go, yeah, I'm hardly an expert. But if I were to guess. Oh, and also, you can, for example, answer this question like, why do people buy imported products, Rory?
R: Well, I'm hardly an expert, but if I were to guess, I would say it's because they want to feel a connection to some kind of culture outside of their own. There we go.
M: Yeah. Yeah. You see. Sweet. So if you have no idea what to say, please use our secret structure. Hey! Lovely, lovely! Thank you very much for listening, dear listener! And we'll see you, here you. Yeah, see you because we have a YouTube channel now. So you can go and look at our faces. And us. But we have only part parts one on our YouTube. Still, yeah, have a look at our faces, and just say hello in the comments. Thank you very much! And bye!
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