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πŸ“• Part 1: Crowded places

Ever been packed in like sardines? Rory shares his claustrophobic travel stories and teaches you Band 9 idioms like 'elbow room' and 'wiggle room' to describe those jam-packed situations perfectly!

Maria & Rory

Β· 13 min read

This episode’s vocabulary

To shove

verb β€” to push someone or something forcefully.

Elbow room

noun β€” space to move around in.

Rammed

adj. β€” very full or crowded.

Claustrophobia

noun β€” fear of being in closed spaces.

To cram

verb β€” to force a lot of people or things into a small space.

Wiggle room

noun β€” the freedom or opportunity to do something, or to change your mind and do something differently if that is what is needed.

Jam-packed

adj. β€” full of people or things that are pushed closely together.

To unwind

verb β€” to relax and allow your mind to be free from worry after a period of work or some other activity that has made you worried.

To spread out

phrasal verb β€” to cover a larger area.

To rub along

phrasal verb β€” if two people rub along, they work or live together in a satisfactory way.

Packed/squashed like sardines

idiom β€” if people are packed or squashed like sardines, they are positioned very close together so that they cannot move.

Antsy

adj. β€” very nervous, worried, or unpleasantly excited.

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Questions and answers

Maria

How do you feel when you are in crowded places?

Rory

Well, assuming things are calm and people are pushing and shoving to get in and I've got elbow room, then it's not so bad. But if there are lots of people rammed into one space, then I can't stand it and I'd like to leave as soon as possible. I wouldn't say I have claustrophobia exactly. But it's just not something that I'm a big fan of.

Maria

When was the last time you were in a crowded place?

Rory

Oh, wow, I'd really have to think about that. It must have been the last time that I flew out of Paris, and everybody was kind of crammed into this boarding gate area, and there wasn't much wiggle room, to be honest with you. So that wasn't a very pleasant experience. However, that'll teach me for flying Ryanair.

Maria

What places do you think are often crowded?

Rory

Oh, you mean, aside from boarding gates? I suppose popular markets, like the ones in Istanbul, are pretty jam-packed, to be honest. And then in large cities, lots of pubs and clubs, especially as the weekend approaches, because I suppose everybody just wants to unwind and relax at that point, don't they?

Maria

How often do you go to crowded places?

Rory

Well, rarely, I'd say. They're only about 5 million people in my country. And I mean, outside of the major cities we're pretty spread out over a wide area. So there, there aren't many opportunities to go to crowded places. I think the only exception is when I go to, big events, like parties or nights out. But that's hardly ever.

Maria

Do you like crowded places?

Rory

Well, like I said before, it really depends on the context and the atmosphere, to be honest with you. I mean, if everyone's relaxed and chilled out, then I'm quite happy to rub along with all the people around me. However, if we're packed in there like sardines, and people are starting to get antsy and behaving in a way that's like that, then I'm not going to be terribly thrilled to be there. So like I say, it depends.

Discussion

Maria

Hey, crowded places! So a crowded place is a place full of people. We say a crowd of people, right? And about our feelings, how do you feel in a crowded place? Well...

Rory

You can feel claustrophobic, but not everybody does. And claustrophobia is like a really specific fear.

Maria

You can say I feel claustrophobic, right? Or like, I have claustrophobia. Right? So you're afraid of like... Too many people! And if I'm rammed into a crowded space, yeah? I'm rammed into a space?

Rory

Yeah. So it's just like, well, if everyone is rammed in together, then it's all tightly packed, and you've been almost pushed in by the people who are in charge. So that makes it a bit difficult.

Maria

So you can say I feel nervous when I'm rammed into a crowded space. Crowded or cramped, okay? Cramped space or a cramped room. Like not having enough space. Okay? So it's not about a crowd. But like a small space with no room. Like not enough space to move. For example, a cramped room or a cramped house. Okay? And also, Rory, you said, like, elbow room.

Rory

Yes.

Maria

Like, you know, our elbows. Yeah, parts of our arms, elbows. So there is no elbow room?

Rory

Yeah. It occurred to me, mostly because I've been teaching idioms recently. And so this one was just sticking in my head. I wanted to mention to have elbow room or to have no elbow room. And that just means not enough room to move. So if you imagine people around you, you cannot even move your elbows like this.

Maria

So you can say I feel really anxious or nervous if there is no elbow room. In a crowded place people usually push and what else do they do?

Rory

Is that a collocation?

Maria

I think so. Yeah, it's a fixed phrase.

Rory

Pushing and shoving in a cramped space.

Maria

So people are pushing and shoving. They're pushing you. Right? And they are shoving you. Is shoving the same as pushing?

Rory

I feel like shoving is a much more deliberate and violent act that happens.

Maria

Yeah, but this is what happens when you are surrounded by people, they push you around. Yeah? So we feel anxious and nervous. Here you can use the past continuous. When I was boarding my last flight. Or when I was dancing somewhere in a club, right? Or when I was having a drink in a bar. Right? It was pretty crowded. And Rory, you said, like, everyone was crammed into this boarding gate, or everyone was crammed into a club. Can I say that?

Rory

Yeah, if you're crammed in, then there's not much space to move. I'm running out of ways to describe crowded places, to be honest with you.

Maria

So for example, imagine a car, a car. And like eight children were crammed into the back of the car. Okay? The car is quite small and kind of like eight kids were crammed. Yeah? Into. What else can I say? Can I say like, I was crammed against the door? For example.

Rory

I don't know if you could say I was crammed against the door because usually crammed into is the collocation. So you might say I was crushed into the door or I was... What was the word against? Crushed against the door. Yeah, crushed against the door, crushed against the wall.

Maria

So there were so many people, I was crushed against the door.

Rory

Yeah. Well, I mean, not why not? But why would you be in that situation?

Maria

Or, for example, you can say that the room was full, or the room was packed, like packed with people. The room was crowded, and packed. And I was cramped into the room?

Rory

Crammed into the room. Yeah, crammed in with other people.

Maria

Like when everyone is going in, and I was cramped into the club, or I was cramped into the bar, right? Like everybody, like was entering the bar and I was like... Together with the crowd, yeah? Cramming into the boarding gate or into a bar, into, I don't know, a concert hall. Another phrase is a lot of wiggle room. Or not a lot of wiggle room. Wiggle-wiggle.

Rory

I'm not going to wiggle... I am going to wiggle on camera but wiggling would be like moving around like that, like a, like a, like a worm. And you cannot, you cannot wiggle or I could not wiggle in the boarding gate area because there were so many people.

Maria

So like to have a wiggle room? No, just to have wiggle room? No article, right?

Rory

I think it's just wiggle room. Get some wiggle room. Or if it's in a specific place, then the wiggle room was... No, not even then you wouldn't use it. So it's just wiggle room or some wiggle room.

Maria

So kind of like freedom to move around. Right? So in a crowded place, there is no wiggle room. There is no elbow room. Some places could be really crowded or could be packed. Or it could be full of people. Right? Rory talked about boarding gates. Like at the airport, like crowds of people. Also markets or shops, like the ones in Istanbul, the ones meaning markets or shops. So these places usually have a lot of people or crowds of people. Also, dear listener, shopping centres, airports, tourist attractions, okay? Like, you can also give some examples like Tokyo, and Times Square. And Rory, do you know like, which city is the busiest city in the world?

Rory

Oh, it'll be a big one. So New York? Because that's the city that never sleeps.

Maria

No, no, no the busiest city in the world is? Mexico City.

Rory

Really?

Maria

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mexico City.

Rory

How many people live there then?

Maria

A lot. Crowds of people. So you can also say that large cities can get really busy. Busy? Like meaning, like full of people, right? Like, markets are quite busy. Right? Or shopping centres could get quite busy. Yeah, could get quite crowded. And Rory also told us that large cities seem quite full. Okay? Again, like packed, full, and crowded. Unwind is a nice one.

Rory

Yes.

Maria

What do people do there?

Rory

They unwind, they relax, they chill out.

Maria

Chill out. Unwind, not unwind. No, because the wind is like... The wind blows. Here we use unwind. It's the meaning of relax. How often? Rarely. So kind of not often, okay? Like hardly ever, I hardly ever go to crowded places or I rarely go to crowded places. And come on, like in Scotland, how many people live there? 5 million?

Rory

Only just over 5 million.

Maria

One neighbourhood in Moscow. Okay?

Rory

Not much. Well, no, that's not true. Not many people but much going on.

Maria

And you said that like people are spread out.

Rory

Yeah. So that's like the opposite of crowded together, I suppose. If you're crowded together, then you're packed into one tight place. But if you're spread out, then you're all over the place.

Maria

Here, you can start with, like I said before. So you refer back to your previous answers. Like I said before, it depends on the people. It depends on the crowds. Yeah? If it's a happy crowd, I enjoy crowded places. So it depends on the atmosphere. Yeah? It depends on the crowd itself. Yeah? And then like if, if people, if everyone is chilled out, if they're relaxed, happy. Happy, happy. Happy. happy, happy. So if the mood of the crowd is happy, happy, happy, I'm quite happy to be there. And Rory used a phrasal verb. Band nine phrasal verb, to rub along with others. When you rub along with others, you kind of work or live together.

Rory

Well, you work and live together well. Yeah. Which is funny because you think that rubbing with people would not be a very satisfying experience. But of course, if it's a nice atmosphere, then it's fine.

Maria

For example, my flatmate and I rub along together well. Like rub. Rub my hands. So rub along okay together. Yeah? So I'm quite happy to rub along with others. And it's nice because like we talk about crowds, and in a crowd, you kind of, rub along with other people. Literally, yeah? Kind of you touch other people. Because there's no elbow room, there's no wiggle room. Rory used a nice idiom about sardines. They are a kind of fish.

Rory

A very tiny fish.

Maria

You know, we have tuna, we have sardines. And usually, it's a tin of sardines. You know? Like this kind of box, you will make a tuna salad. So tuna is in a tin and like sardines are often in a tin. So imagine all these sardines are packed in there. So if we are packed in like sardines. Yeah? Not really nice. Could you give us another example with sardines?

Rory

Well, if you're on a bus, and there's lots of people then you could be packed in together like sardines. Or if you've ever been to Tokyo, and you've been on the public transport there, then people are often packed in like sardines because they're just like, right up against each other, not able to move. In fact, I think they have people to pack them in like that because there are just so many and it's just impossible to do it any other way.

Maria

People could get antsy. Antsy?

Rory

Yes. So irritated and agitated.

Maria

Not like sardines. Sardines are usually kind of like... Hey! No problem. You're gonna eat us? Okay, we're happy. So antsy. Antsy is informal. Usually, in American English, very nervous or worried. Unpleasantly excited. Okay? So kind of like, children started to get antsy. Yeah? Or I sometimes get antsy about, like job interviews, so, yeah, not really nice. Also, we can say someplace is jam-packed. Rory, what is like jammed? Or jam-packed or jammed?

Rory

Well, you're jammed into a place, but you're jam-packed into a place. Or a place is jam-packed. But all of these are just different ways of describing all these people together in one place. And the difficulty with moving because everyone is so close together. A traffic jam may have very similar imagery.

Maria

Yeah, for example, popular markets are usually jam-packed. Okay? Or I was at* a concert and I was jammed. I was jammed?

Rory

Well, you could say the concert was jammed or the movement of the people was jammed. Because there's just so many of them that they cannot move.

Maria

Right, dear listener, tell us about your feelings in a crowded place in the comments. Okay? Is your city crowded? Which places are usually crowded? And how do you feel in a crowded place? Let us know in the comments. Okay? Don't get your brain crowded. Keep them spacious.

Rory

But do crowd our comments and our Instagram messages with the answers to our reflection activity which is to summarize. So how would you summarize in one sentence my feelings about crowded places? They're pretty negative, I think. But what phrases could you use from today's video to describe them?

Maria

Wiggle-wiggle-wiggle. I think it's in a song somewhere. Wiggle-wiggle-wiggle.

Rory

It is. But let's not dwell on that too much.

Maria

Something like this. Yeah, wiggle-wiggle-wiggle. Okay, let's wiggle.

Rory

Wiggle on to the next episode. Stop!

Maria

Bye!

Rory

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