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๐Ÿ“• Part 1: BBQ

Rory reveals he's not a dab hand with the grill! Discover the secrets to juicy, healthy outdoor cooking, from spare ribs to grilled veg, and why Maria is now obsessed with gut bacteria and tongs.

Maria & Rory

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This episodeโ€™s vocabulary

Dab hand

noun โ€” someone who is very good at a particular activity.

Grill

noun โ€” a frame of metal bars over a fire on which food can be put to be cooked.

Grill

verb โ€” to cook food over fire or hot coals, usually on a metal frame.

Tongs

noun โ€” a device used for picking up objects, consisting of two long pieces joined at one end and pressed together at the other end in order to hold an object between them.

Charcoal

noun โ€” a hard, black substance similar to coal that can be used as fuel or, in the form of sticks, as something to draw with.

Alludeย to someone/sth

verb โ€” to mention someone or something in a brief or indirect way.

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Questions and answers

Maria

Rory, do you like barbecues?

Rory

I like the end result of them. But I'm not exactly a dab hand with the grill in the set of tongs unfortunately.

Maria

Do people in your country like barbecues?

Rory

It's popular in Russia and Scotland, I think. You could smell them all the time when the weather is good. And people set them up and clear out the charcoal from the local shops when the weather is ideal.

Maria

What kind of food do you like to have at barbecues?

Rory

Well, I used to like, only burgers and now I'm increasingly fond of grilled vegetables and mushrooms. I've also discovered that bread is really bad for my gut bacteria. So I switched to kebabs. They are amazing.

Maria

Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. Would you like to have a barbecue with your family or friends?

Rory

I would love to, and we often did back in the day. Maybe when I'm back home we can have another one for my birthday. Although I'm a bit worried about the charcoal lighter fluid going everywhere and wrecking my clothes to be honest.

Maria

Did you have barbecues when you were a child?

Rory

Well, all the time. Like I alluded to earlier, dad would load up the grill with chicken and beef burgers. We also used to do just spare ribs which are amazing if extremely unhealthy.

Maria

Rory, thank you so much for your yum, yum, yum, delicious, tasty answers. -

Discussion

Maria

So barbecue. Rory, tell us first of all what's going on with this word? So BBQ, a barbecue? What is it? Two barbecue?

Rory

Well, a barbecue is just, it's like if you cook outside on a grill. A grill is like a piece of metal that's got, well, lines of metal so that the heat can get through from the fire to cook the meat on top.

Maria

So a grill is this technology, this piece of equipment. A grill.

Rory

Yes, but it's also a verb to grill things.

Maria

To grill. Yeah, to grill mushrooms. Yum, yum, yum. I'm hungry now. I want grilled mushrooms. Yeah, to grill mushrooms, to grill meat. But can I say barbecue mushrooms, barbecue meat?

Rory

Well, you can say that but it's more common to say something like barbecued mushrooms or barbecued meat. And then you've got the different kinds of meat like you could have barbecued burgers or chicken.

Maria

Barbecued chicken, right?

Rory

Yes.

Maria

Usually we say like I enjoy having barbecue parties, right? Or I enjoy cooking on a barbecue is also possible. So cook something on a barbecue.

Rory

You can throw something on a barbecue. Australians do that. '

Maria

Oh yeah. Ozzie culture, Ozzie barbecue culture. Wow.

Rory

Do we know any Australians? No, because we don't associate with criminals. Oh, well. Seriously.

Maria

Yeah, Australia used to be his colony.

Rory

A prison colony.

Maria

Yeah, for the Great Britain and the United Kingdom. Okay, anyway. We can also have a barbecue season. A barbecue season. Right.

Rory

You can have seasoning put on your barbecues. We talked about, we talked about seasons and seasoning.

Maria

Yeah, seasoning, like herbs, different like spices, salt, pepper seasoning. Rory, you've used precise language about barbecues. For example, you said the charcoal. Charcoal.

Rory

Charcoal is the black stuff that you throw on a barbecue to make the burn. It's like wood. It's like coal basically.

Maria

Yeah. Coal - charcoal. And also, you said a set of tongs.

Rory

Tongs. Not thongs.

Maria

Oh.

Rory

You don't want to put your thong on the barbecue.

Maria

Yeah, thong is a type of underwear.

Rory

For ladies.

Maria

Yeah, a set of thongs and let's have a barbecue.

Rory

That's gonna be a hot barbecue in a different sense.

Maria

Yeah, very hot. On fire. So a set of tongs, tongs.

Rory

Tongs are like, it's like a pair of metal arms that you use to pick up things and turn them over so that you can equally distribute the heat. Or you could put or you use them to put them on a burger or a plate. Without burning your hands because you don't pick up things with your hands on a barbecue. You pick them up with tongs.

Maria

And you said I'm not exactly a dab hand with the grill. A dab hand?

Rory

A dab hand just means that you're good at something. Hmm, I'm not exactly a dab hand with the grill. I'm not a dab hand with cooking on a barbecue.

Rory

I'm not a dab hand with...

Maria

Phrasal verbs.

Rory

Mixed conditionals. Explaining mixed conditionals I'm not very good at.

Maria

And then we also talk about food that you can barbecue. Rory, you mentioned burgers. I'm increasingly fond of grilled vege and mushrooms. So vegetables - vege.

Rory

Having them on kebabs.

Maria

Nice. Yeah, so, barbecue cooking could be about throwing meat and vege on the grill. But it also could be more adventurous, you can get more adventurous. So you can get more adventurous and edging twists to your food. Like barbecue some what? Chocolate?

Rory

Can you barbeque chocolate?

Maria

Barbecue some fish with vege.

Rory

People do barbecue fish. I don't think you can barbecue bread. I think that's just called toast or burning your bread.

Maria

Grill your bread. Grilled bread. Ooh, yum, yum, yum.

Rory

That's just toast.

Maria

Yeah. And, Rory, you talked about your gut bacteria. So, bread is really bad for your gut bacteria, right?

Rory

Well, it's bad for my gut bacteria, but other people are probably fine. So gut bacteria are the small things that live inside of your guts, your stomach, your tummy.

Maria

Oh, right. That's why barbecued food. And we can say barbecued food isn't just tasty, but it's also healthy.

Rory

Like it can be. I don't think spare ribs are particularly healthy for you. They're like...

Maria

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you talked about what? What do you call them?

Rory

Spare ribs. They're like ribs, but they're covered in this kind of sauce. And they taste great, but they're not good for you. I'm sure they're terrible for you.

Maria

They say that the food that you put on a grill is much better than fried food because like fried food is cooked in the fat that comes out of the food.

Rory

I was gonna say eating glass would probably be healthier than eating fried food. Oh my god, though. That's a very apt comparison. Because fried food has something called, I think it's called trans fats in it. And trans fats has the same effect on your cells as eating plastic. It wrecks the cell membranes.

Maria

What?

Rory

Yeah, it's not good for you. Alright, stop it. That's why barbecued food... When you barbecue your food, the fat just drips away.

Rory

Well, assuming you've cooked it properly.

Maria

Yeah, if you cook it properly. Yeah, so barbecued food retains a lot of its moisture. So it's nice and juicy. Yum, yum, yum, yum. Yeah, and all this intense heat and flames create all this beautiful smell. And, Rory, it is true that the word smell is negative.

Rory

Well not always. No, it's gonna have a nice smell like I can smell the barbecue, for example.

Maria

Right, so the smell of the barbecue it's like a nice smell?

Rory

Smoky smell.

Maria

Yeah, smoky smell. Should I use the word scent.

Rory

No, scent is delicate but nothing about a grill is delicate, so I like the smell of barbecue.

Maria

Yeah, the heat, and flames, and smoke, and yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. I've done some research about barbecues and I found out that most people grill burgers. Then steaks, hotdogs and chicken.

Rory

Nothing about ribs?

Maria

Ribs no.

Rory

How rood rude.

Maria

Yes, it is rude, ribs are delicious. Rory, and you said that when you're back home, you can have one, you can have a barbecue for your birthday. Is it like for your birthday? Not like at your birthday, on your birthday? For your birthday?

Rory

Yeah, barbecue for birthday. Though, at least, it's sort of a reflection of how special the barbecue is. Because you get something for your birthday. You get present for your birthday, money for your birthday. For me a barbecue special so you have it for your birthday.

Maria

Can I say I got this computer on my birthday?

Rory

Yeah. But it's more common to say for because it's special.

Maria

Cool. But you say at barbecues, right?

Rory

I was at a barbecue.

Maria

At a barbecue.

Rory

I brought something for the barbecue.

Maria

Yep

Rory

It's to do with a period of time. Regardless, barbecues are super special in Scotland, where it's never sunny. Almost.

Maria

Well, in Russia, we call them shashlik. We call them, well, barbecue. Yeah, Russian barbecue. Yeah.

Rory

And you have them at all times of the year.

Maria

Oh yeah, in winter.

Rory

In winter. Yeah, I remember walking out of school and someone was having shashlik just outside at the school. It was like minus 10 degrees or so.

Maria

No, it doesn't matter, barbecue is like all around.

Rory

All the time. Now. We should have one in the studio.

Maria

In the studio, on the balcony.

Rory

Oh my God, I'm gonna message Vanya and tell him to bring us barbecue.

Maria

Let's have a barbecue, balcony barbecue. Yeah. And we're gonna grill. What are we gonna grill?

Rory

I'm grilling Vanya for answers about where my order is. So we might have to grill Vanya when he gets back. If he gets back.

Maria

Yes, dear listener, for the purposes of IELTS speaking, you should be aware of your barbecue culture. I'm sure you have some culture, or you can talk about Rory's barbecue culture, or my barbecue culture. So in Russia, we do have barbecues in winter in minus 10 and 15. And if you think that, oh, Australia, yeah, they have a rich barbecue culture in Australia. In the States also. And if you're sitting there thinking barbecue appeared in the States. No. Around 1 million years ago. Homo what?

Rory

Erectus.

Maria

Homo erectus or the hominid just before the Neanderthal man.

Rory

Neanderthal. Oh, you're doing great work preparing for this.

Maria

Neanderthal.

Rory

Neanderthal.

Maria

Neanderthal men first tasted cooked meat. So even before the United States appeared, even before Australia, men ate grilled meat. Even before Scotland.

Rory

Freedom.

Maria

Freedom.

Rory

Band nine score.

Maria

Yeah. Forever, quality.

Rory

But that's enough from us. So now we're going to go and grill Vanya. Until next time. Bye!

Maria

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