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πŸ“• Part 1: Relatives

Rory shares some hilarious ways to describe distant relatives you've never met. Learn high-level phrases like "cousins once removed" and how to talk about gossip without sounding rude. Essential IELTS listening!

Maria & Rory

Β· 11 min read

This episode’s vocabulary

Spread out

phrasal verb β€” if people spread out, they move from being close together in a group to being in different places across a larger area.

Gathering

noun β€” a party or a meeting when many people come together as a group.

Catch up

phrasal verb β€” to learn or discuss the latest news.

Gossip

noun β€” conversation or reports about other people's private lives that might be unkind, disapproving, or not true.

Distinguish

verb β€” to notice or understand the difference between two things, or to make one person or thing seem different from another.

Hierarchy

noun β€” a system in which people or things are arranged according to their importance.

Intertwined

adj. β€” twisted together or closely connected so as to be difficult to separate.

Overexpose

verb β€” to make someone or something experience something too much, or for too long, risking harm.

Eccentricity

noun β€” state of being eccentric.

Eccentric

adj. β€” strange or unusual, sometimes in a humorous way.

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Questions and answers

Maria

Do you have many relatives?

Rory

I suppose, if we take into consideration all the numerous distant relatives and many cousins once or twice removed, then yeah. It seems like there are almost hundreds of us.

Maria

How often do you meet your relatives?

Rory

Probably not often enough these days. The last family gathering was at Christmas and that was online. And it was exhausting since we were spread out all over the place in different time zones. It was really hard for me to organize, actually.

Maria

When did you last see your relatives?

Rory

Um, do you mean face to face? I suppose... Oh God, that must have been many moons ago. Um, oh, actually, it was my 30th birthday. So we were all together, my cousins from my mom's side of the family were there and all of... Well, yeah, and all of the cousins and all of the my brothers as well, except for the one that lives in Australia, of course. And then in terms of online, that was that would be the Christmas gathering that I mentioned.

Maria

How do you spend time with your relatives?

Rory

Well, since we're hardly ever all together, it's usually spent catching up on the latest news and family gossip. My cousin and my uncle are pretty good with family trees and stuff for keeping track of all of that. So I usually talk to them to stay in the know about everything.

Maria

Are your relatives or friends more important to you?

Rory

Well, they probably have equal weight, I'd say. Most of my friends are physically closer to me, but my relatives are similar in terms of emotional proximity. I try not to distinguish between the two, since it's not like there's some sort of competitive hierarchy, which it isn't and it shouldn't be.

Maria

Are people in your country usually close with their relatives?

Rory

Um, I would say so. Even though families are usually big and intertwined with each other. Social media makes it easy to stay in touch. Um, and possibly it's too easy. And maybe we're all a little overexposed to people's eccentricity sometimes. -

Discussion

Maria

Rory, thank you so much for your answers. You are my distant relative, once removed.

Rory

Shall we talk about the related grammar and vocab?

Maria

Yeah. So we have an episode about families, so do check it out, OK? And this one is about relatives because in IELTS speaking part one they can ask you questions about relatives. By relatives we mean who exactly, Rory?

Rory

People who are connected to us by blood usually.

Maria

Yeah. So they are cousins and a cousin it's either he or she. We don't know. So have a cousin you have no idea it's boy or girl. So a cousin. Cousins then what? Aunts?

Rory

Cousins, aunts and uncles.

Maria

Uncle.

Rory

Great aunts, great uncles, grandparents.

Maria

Grandparents, right, grandmothers, grandfathers. Then nieces. A niece. Yeah, that's a she. Nephew. That's a he. Nephew. Also you mentioned cousins once or twice removed.

Rory

Yes.

Maria

Where do you remove them? What's removed?

Rory

Once or twice removed in the sense that they're from another generation past. I think it's how it's structured. Hold on a second. Let me just double check.

Maria

Anyway, dear listener, it's a really difficult thing to explain what it means. A cousin once or twice removed. But it's a great word. So if you have cousins or you don't have cousins, doesn't matter. Just say like, oh yeah, I have many relatives. I have aunts, uncles, cousins once or twice removed. Basically they are distant cousins that you have no idea who they are, who they live. Are they alive or dead?

Rory

Well, no, no. Well, you might know them well or you might not know them well, but if they're once removed, it's all to do with the generations. So, for example, my mom's first cousin, like they're the same from the same generation, but she is my cousin once removed because she's from the previous generation, for example. But I just call her my cousin because you don't refer to people like this in real life. This is only for describing things in greater detail.

Maria

Oh, hello cousin once removed. Yeah. So it's cool to say that. Yeah, I have a couple of cousins once or twice removed. Family gathering. So when you meet all your relatives it's a family gathering. Gathering like a meetup. You gather together for Christmas or what, just for fun?

Rory

Yeah. Family gatherings.

Maria

Yeah. My last family gathering was online for example, and Rory's relatives are spread all over the place. All over the world. They live in different countries. Do you have any relatives in Russia?

Rory

I do not have any relatives in Russia yet.

Maria

Bother. So when did you last see your relatives and you go, oh, many moons ago.

Rory

Yes, well, that's another way of saying a long time ago.

Maria

Really? Can you really say that?

Rory

You can say moons ago you. Yeah.

Maria

How about many suns ago?

Rory

No. It's always many moons ago. It's a fixed expression.

Maria

Oh, that's nice. Yeah. I saw my relatives many moons ago.

Rory

I last saw my relatives many moons ago.

Maria

I last saw my relatives many moons ago.

Rory

And you have the chance to use upward intonation for saying like, oh, well, you mean face to face.

Maria

Yeah.

Rory

Or, and you could say face to face or online. So you can extend your answer and use more complex grammar structures.

Maria

For a high score. Band nine score.

Rory

I say online would have been Christmas. So that's good, isn't it?

Maria

Oh God. This is the second part of the third conditional, Rory.

Rory

Is it?

Maria

Yes. Yes, it is.

Rory

But when we talk about our relatives, we can keep track of them using a family tree. And indeed the phrasal verb keep track.

Rory

But when we talk about our relatives, we can keep track of them using a family tree. And indeed the phrasal verb keep track.

Maria

Hmm. Keep track of your family tree. Right?

Rory

And you can stay in the know, which means that you know about things and you keep your knowledge up to date.

Maria

Oh yeah. When you meet your relatives, you usually catch up on the latest news and you catch up on the latest gossip. And gossip is unaccountable. OK? So gossip means when you gossip about people, when you talk about people behind their backs. For example, we together with Rory, we can gossip about Vanya. Oh, like Vanya, like is he married? Does he have children? So we can just talk about Vanya behind his back. It means gossiping. We can have gossip magazines. Right? And with relatives we usually gossip about each other. Right? Or gossip about other people.

Rory

We usually gossip about other people.

Maria

You gossip about other people. And you can't say a gossip, because gossip is a person. For example, I can say Rory, you are such a gossip. So a person who gossips around, yeah, so you catch up on the latest news with your relatives and gossip. Family or friends, they have equal weight.

Rory

That means you treat them the same way.

Maria

Yeah. And some friends are physically closer to us and some relatives or friends can be... They can be...

Rory

They are similar in terms of emotional proximity, which just means they're close to me in the way that we are emotionally close.

Maria

In terms of emotional proximity some relatives are closer to me. And the phrases to be close to your mother, to be close to your parents. But parents are not relatives, right?

Rory

Parents are your relatives.

Maria

Relatives?

Rory

They're related to you.

Maria

Hmm, but they are like close relatives. Right? OK. We can have a hierarchy in our family.

Rory

Yes. That just means one of the some of them are more important than others.

Maria

Yeah. We usually stay in touch with our relatives or we don't stay in touch. We stay out of touch.

Rory

We lose touch.

Maria

Oh, we lose touch. Right. You can lose touch. I lost touch with some of my cousins once removed. Intertwined.

Rory

Intertwined.

Maria

Intertwined. Oh.

Rory

That just means closely connected in a bit of a messy way.

Maria

Yeah. So how can we use it in a sentence? This intertwined bit.

Rory

My family's lives are intertwined because we all live so close together.

Maria

Yeah.

Rory

Well, as an example. Obviously in my family that's not true.

Maria

And the last word that you said was eccentricities.

Rory

Yes. Eccentricities are just a way of talking about. Well, actually, it's a euphemism for annoying aspects of what people are like.

Maria

Eccentricities.

Rory

Yeah.

Maria

Oh, his eccentricities meaning, oh, he's so weird.

Rory

We used the word eccentric to describe people who are crazy. It wasn't very politically correct.

Maria

No, but if you say eccentricity, it is political correct. No?

Rory

It's not really. It's like a byword for someone who's nuts are annoying.

Maria

People's eccentricities.

Rory

Well, it's like a polite way of saying someone's annoying, but it's so obvious what it is you're saying.

Maria

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, dear listener, now you know how to talk about distant relatives and you have a posh word of the day. A cousin once removed. And actually we crack jokes about this like cousins once removed or an uncle once removed. Yeah?

Rory

Mhm.

Maria

So give us something. Like he's some of my cousins once removed.

Rory

Something like three million times removed or something like that.

Maria

Three million times removed. Yeah. So when you say that or hear that, it means some person like a really distant relative.

Rory

I really don't understand what the relationship is. But there is one.

Maria

Yeah. Yeah. Like it was my wedding and I had some cousins 300 times removed. I have no idea they existed. Yeah. Thank you very much for listening. We are sending you hugs and kisses and now you can talk about your relatives with flair and high level words.

Rory

For a band nine score. Bye!

Maria

Bye!

Rory

Oh no.

Maria

No.

Rory

We had a pun to finish with.

Maria

What? Let's go.

Rory

I hope you found it relatively easy to listen to.

Maria

Oh...

Rory

Now you can go. Bye!

Maria

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