R: In your home, though? Not in like a building far from your home? People used to think that was like a really big sign of like, how, well, how successful they were like, oh, do I have the corner office in a law firm? And you're just sort of like, get a life, would you? Sorry, I don't believe in this at all.
M: But can you imagine having an office, your own office in your own building in your own Rory's company. And you would have your office and you'd have Jacuzzi there, you'd have this whiskey wardrobe.
R: I have this. It's called my house.
M: Do you have a Jacuzzi there?
R: I do not have a Jacuzzi. But really, there is a gym like a 10 minute walk up the road from where I live, I could just like go there for the jacuzzi. And I can't go there now. But I will go there tomorrow, probably.
M: Oh, that's nice. Plus, like, imagine if you have this in your house, it's going to be a lot of effort with the maintenance. I can see that just being a pain.
M: You would hire people to do it for you.
R: Yes. But also, it's just like a lot of extra work for everybody. I'm sure they have better things to be doing with their time. You disagree?
M: Oh, yeah, no, that's, that's fine. Yeah, so you can say like I wouldn't, I wouldn't like to work in an office, I wouldn't like to work in any office, to be honest. And Rory said that he doesn't like the idea of being confined in a space you're forced to go to everyday. So to be confined in a space,
R: It's just like, you're there, and you're stuck there and you can't go anywhere else. And lighter version might be confined to a space, because that means that you're just supposed to be there but confined in space is to do with, it's closer to being trapped. But the whole idea is that it's bad for you and I don't like it.
M: Yes. To be confined in a space it's negative. Right? So like, it's not something really positive.
R: Confined to prison.
M: Yep. Yeah, usually prison. So like an office like a prison. And then you can say like, you can work from the comfort of your own home. So from the comfort of your own home. Yeah. Nice one. Yeah, they say that soon, they're gonna introduce this online IELTS. And you can take IELTS from the comfort of your own home, sitting there in your PJs. pyjamas half naked with a cup of coffee. And you can take all IELTS parts online, even speaking. So they kind of announced it last year. And they said that we will have it this year, but still nothing. So I don't know, maybe Cambridge people are still working on this online IELTS.
R: Doesn't that sort of violate the spirit of having an exam to test English? If you can just be in your home and you can look up anything that you need for the test? That's cheeky.
M: No, no, because they have this high tech anti-cheating system, and they're gonna track your eyes. And if they see something suspicious, like they will not issue a certificate, so they will show that you were cheating. Yeah, so there are rumours about this like anti-cheating system. So yeah, pretty high-tech stuff. Anyway, so Rory, what's your final word about offices? Are you an office person?
R: I'm not an office person. I believe in freedom and the freedom to work from home if you choose to. If you choose to work in an office, then you're very strange. And I would like to have a conversation with you about that. And tell you how wrong you are.
M: Yes, if you enjoy working in an office, could you please call Rory. Rory, what's your phone number? So we can call you?
R: You can get me on telegram or Instagram. That's fine. I will do an Instagram Live with anyone who wants to talk to me about the supposed merits of working in an office. That's fine.
M: Yes. Right. Could you post a post on telegram about this office thing and people who... If you enjoy working in an office, please attack Rory, with your arguments, with your convincing arguments for working in an office.
R: I don't think anyone's ever gonna make a convincing argument about working in an office.
M: Well, let's see we had a good discussion about batmen. Is Batman a superhero or no? Which he is.
R: Batman is not a superhero. He's in fact a detective.
M: No. He is a superhero.
R: No. He is not. He is a detective. Money is not a superpower. If having money was a superpower, then Bill Gates would be a superhero and he is not a superhero. Decidedly not so. Just...
M: Yeah. So you see, we are having a fruitful discussion now so we can have something of the sort about the offices. Is it a fruitful discussion if both of us leave with both of our points totally reinforced?
M: We're not continuing this. All right?
R: Okay. Because you're wrong, and you know you are. That is usually what someone says when they're losing the argument.
M: Anyway, thank you very much for listening!
M: Hugs and Kisses. Bye!