M: Hey, dear listener, this is your time to tell a story about how you met Beyonce, or how I met Leonardo DiCaprio or Messi. You can just lie, dear listener, and the examiner is going to be like, whoa, whoa, you really met Beyonce? Yeah, Rory didn't say anything like this. Well, okay.
R: I said what their jobs were. I'm not gonna go around name-dropping. That's not how things work. Name dropping is by the way is when you mention the names of famous people in conversation in order to garner attention.
M: You should know who is famous in your country. For example, Rory here mentioned James McAvoy and he's a Scottish actor. Okay? He starred in X-Men and also this movie - Split.
R: But I don't know if James McAvoy is actually a celebrity in my country anymore. He's a celebrity from my country, but I think he actually lives in...
M: In the States or, well, somewhere in the UK they say. Yeah, Google says like in the States or in the UK. But he grew up in Scotland, okay?
R: Yeah.
M: But he's famous in your country. So it's okay. So you should kind of give some names. Okay? So who is famous? Maybe like a writer, Beyonce, Paul McCartney, I don't know, Messi is famous everywhere. And a good way to start it, you say, oh, I've never really thought about this. I've never thought about this. Who is famous in my country? Me? Me? Rory?
R: Well, it's not something I spend a great deal of time thinking about. And you could tell that to the examiner and they will probably understand because not everybody is interested in celebrities and following them. Speaking of which, if you follow celebrities, it doesn't mean you're physically like, they are walking and you are walking behind them. It just means that you follow the news about them and their lives.
M: Do you want to be a celebrity or do you want to be famous? And Rory told us, I'd sooner die. So I would sooner die. Death is better than being a celebrity for Rory.
R: You could say this to anything. If someone said, would you like to do blah, blah, blah? And if you really don't want to do it, then you just say, I think I'd sooner die.
M: Yeah, for example, Rory, would you like to be a singer?
R: I think I'd sooner die because that would... Well, I would die if I did it because I would die of embarrassment. So there we go. It's good grammar, though. For example, I think, Present Simple. I'd, I would and sooner for the comparative. And then the whole thing, I think I'd sooner die for the pronunciation. So it's pretty good. It's a good phrase to use, even though it's a bit dark.
M: Yeah. And you can say, for example, like, I do want to be a writer. I'd sooner die. I'd rather be a singer. So I would rather be a singer. Again, like I prefer to be a singer. So I'd rather be famous, or I'd rather die. I'd rather be a teacher, I'd rather be a doctor. This is a nice one. And I'd rather be well known for the right reasons. So well known? Famous. For the right reasons. What did you mean for the right reasons?
R: Well, well known is not the same as being famous, it's like in the celebrity way. Well-known is just like people know who you are. And if it's for the right reasons, then it's for doing good things. Helping people or having a good reputation, rather than being some, I don't know, notorious person who does all of these horrible things or behaves in a certain way. I don't really approve of that. So I don't just want to be a celebrity for the sake of being a celebrity. Being famous is the main focus. It's more about a few, well, a large number of people who know who you are, but they know you for doing one specific thing very well, or a few things that are really good.