R: Yeah. It would be hard not to find a T-shirt that doesn't go with something. Like jeans, for example, I wear blue jeans and a grey long sleeve shirt. So and that works out fine for me. They do go together quite well.
M: T-shirts are popular everywhere. So... Well, in winter in Scotland, do people wear T-shirts?
R: I imagine they do under their jackets. It will not be the only thing they wear unless they're insane. Especially at this time of year. We are recording in January in Scotland. It is very cold. I have been snowed in. And so that is why you should definitely not wear just a T-shirt when you come to Scotland in this kind of weather.
M: Yeah, you said like exposed arms. So, for example, here you see my arms are exposed, so they are not covered. So... Because I'm recording from Thailand, I am in Thailand now. Yeah? So I'm wearing this dress, it's actually a dress, not a T-shirt. And you can say that a T-shirt is a key item. So an item of clothing, a key item in casual wardrobe. So they tend to be casual, these T-shirts, and I think it's like the most casual outfits. Outfits or clothes, yeah? Another synonym. Casual or smart casual situations. And surely T-shirts are not quite good in business situations or smart casual situations. Yeah?
R. Well, I always think it depends. Because if you look at Mark Zuckerberg or the late Steve Jobs, for example, they always wore the same thing. And it wasn't, well, it was not what you would expect of two, you know, multibillionaires.
M: So they got away with it. You see, so they wore, they wear, Mark wears a plain grey T-shirt, and he gets away with it.
R: I suspect the reason they get away with it is because they have billions of dollars. You know, if you're gonna get away with things, that's usually what's required.
M: So if you get away with it, you just wear a plain T-shirt during negotiations, and you get nothing for this. Yeah? So everything is successful, you're fine. So you got away with it, or I can get away with it. So do something, you know, like bad and then get away with it. Hey! But sometimes if a person is covered in tattoos... Oh, what did you say? Scarification?
R: Tattoos and scarification. Yeah, so tattoos, well, if you're like me, and you have like tattoos on your arms, and they're all over, then you're covered in them. But a scarification is... Okay, I'm gonna really simplify this. If you have scarification, please do not be offended. But a scarification is like a tattoo, without ink, they make the marks on your skin. And the pattern that's created by the scar tissue is the, is the body modification. That's the best way to describe it. So some people when you hurt yourself really badly, and it leaves a scar like a mark on your arm or your hand, that can happen to you in accident. Some people do that on purpose to themselves in a pattern, and that's called scarification. And it's illegal in so many countries, because it's extremely dangerous, but some people have it and good for them. It is not something I would do, but I think it's becoming increasingly popular these days.