M: And, dear listener, Rory said he drinks two things. Champagne and bourbon. So no water, no tea. Just two things. Scotland freedom.
R: If we're talking about alcohol, then yes, but if we're talking in general, I have my water. I have my water next to me, so it's okay.
M: And you say I'm cheap. Yeah, I'm cheap drinking my water from porcelain glasses. I'm so cheap,
R: Well, it was clearly a joke because I have this crystal glass next to me.
M: Oh, crystal. Sorry. Yeah, crystal glass.
R: Oh my god.
M: Show us your crystal glass, Rory, come on.
R: It's a bit cloudy right now because it had energy drinks in it but there you go, that's my crystal glass.
M: I'm cheap. Yeah, surely I'm cheap. Just golden diamonds. I'm so cheap. Ha-ha-ha.
R: The crystal glass is older than I am. So it was in the family already.
M: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. In the family, in the castle, I'm cheap. In my castle with ghosts. Expensive gifts or expensive presents. And Rory told us this idea that... What's your idea about the value of the gift and the value of a person?
R: Well, some people think that you should get someone something expensive to show the more it costs, the greater your love for them, or the more they mean to you. But I don't think that's true, I don't think that money value is the same as the value of the person or the relationship. It's more about if you give someone something that's useful for them. Like if somebody bought me a book, for example, about a subject that I'm interested in, even if it only costs like three pounds or something, then that's good. That's like, that's got a lot of value to it. Whereas if somebody spent. Oh, I don't know, what, 100 pounds on a bottle of sparkling wine, then that would have no value to me at all.
M: So, the amount of money we spent on a gift, okay? Not the number of money, the amount of money we spend on something. And then we can say that the amount of money doesn't equate, is not equal to the value of the person. Okay? We as people have values. Value. We value a lot. And we can also say a present reinforces the relationship. So kind of a present helps us to build up the relationship with other people. And kind of boosts the relationship. Presents reinforce the relationship. And, dear listener, you can say that memories are the best gift. So I give memories to other people.
R: That just reminds me of something I said to a friend once. Is it me? Am I the gift?
M: Yeah, I'm the gift. Come on. Like what's your problem?
R: And extremely modest about it, too.
M: Thank you for listening! And remember, it's all about presence, not presents. Presence, you know? I'm present here for you. So it's about presence, being present, not present. Bye!