Growing vegetables and/or fruits
Are you interested in growing vegetables and fruits? Do many people grow vegetables in your city? Is growing vegetables popular in your country? Should schools teach students how to grow vegetables? Do you think it’s easy to grow vegetables?
Vocabulary
  • Not overly (adverb) – not excessively or not very much. → I'm not overly concerned about the test results since I studied thoroughly.
  • For that matter (phrase) – used to emphasize that something applies equally to another case. → I don't enjoy horror films, or action movies for that matter.
  • Let alone (phrase) – used to emphasize that something is even less likely than another thing. → I can barely afford rent, let alone buy a car.
  • Cultivating (verb) – growing and caring for plants or crops. → Cultivating fresh herbs at home is easier than most people think.
  • Allotments (noun) – small plots of land rented for growing vegetables or flowers. → Many city residents rent allotments to grow their own produce.
  • Outskirts (noun) – the outer areas or edges of a city or town. → Housing is generally more affordable on the outskirts than in the city center.
  • Suburbs (noun) – residential districts on the outer edges of a city. → Many families prefer living in the suburbs for more space and quieter neighborhoods.
  • Derive pleasure from (verb phrase) – to obtain enjoyment or satisfaction from something. → I derive great pleasure from teaching and seeing students progress.
  • Bias (noun) – a tendency to favor or oppose something based on prejudice. → We should try to recognize our own bias when making important decisions.
  • Willpower (noun) – self-control and determination to do something difficult. → It takes willpower to maintain a healthy diet when surrounded by temptation.
  • Hands-on experience (noun phrase) – practical, direct involvement in an activity. → Internships provide valuable hands-on experience for students entering the workforce.
  • Green thumb (idiom) – natural skill at growing plants successfully. → My grandmother has a real green thumb and can grow anything.
  • Self-sufficient (adjective) – able to provide for one's own needs without external help. → Growing your own vegetables can help you become more self-sufficient.
  • Trial and error (noun phrase) – learning through experimentation and mistakes. → Mastering any skill requires patience and trial and error.
  • Rewarding (adjective) – providing satisfaction or a sense of achievement. → Volunteering can be an incredibly rewarding experience.
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Questions and Answers
Maria: Are you interested in growing vegetables and fruits?

Rory: Not overly. I barely have an interest in cooking or growing a house plant, for that matter, let alone doing anything like, I don't know, cultivating a cucumber or a tomato plant. I just don't have the time or the patience for that.

Maria: Do many people grow vegetables in your city?

Rory: I imagine so. There are lots of plots of land and allotments on the outskirts and in the suburbs. So they must be growing something there.

Maria: Is growing vegetables popular in your country?

Rory: I'm not sure. Well, it might be less common than before, since people usually just go to the supermarket. But when it comes to how popular it is, I have no idea. I'm not sure it's something that you can derive that much pleasure from. So I'd say no, but that could just be my own bias talking there.

Maria: Should schools teach students how to grow vegetables?

Rory: I don't see the harm in it. It might be a nice way to bring together different concepts and subjects, like biology for learning about growth and maths for calculating how much water they need, for example, and how much soil.

Maria: Do you think it's easy to grow vegetables?

Rory: For me personally, no. It would be a nightmare. I know nothing about it, and it would be such a waste of money to attempt it now. I used to think it was all just soil and seeds and water, but it's way more complex than that, and I just don't have the willpower. Other people might be fine, though.
Discussion
Maria: Yay! Thank you, Rory, for your answers. So dear listeners, we are growing vegetables and fruits. This is a brand new topic. We haven't had it before. So yeah. Is it strange for you?

Rory: Well, it would be strange for me to grow anything.

Maria: Yeah, you're a plant murderer, you just murder anything.

Rory: As we speak, the big plant in my house is withering away, which would also be a good way to talk about growing things, actually. If something is withering, it means it is, well, its condition is getting worse and worse and it's slowly dying.

Maria: And Rory's plants are like, Rory, please give us water, water, Rory.

Rory: I do give them water, but it doesn't seem to make a difference.

Maria: Yeah, you should talk to them, hug them, touch them, talk to them, love them. Come on.

Rory: Oh, that's crazy.

Maria: So dear listeners, growing vegetables or veggies or fruits, you know, not fruit, but fruits, because lots of different kinds of fruits. And Rory told us that I barely have an interest in growing something. So barely, like I have no interest or very little interest in growing something. You said growing a houseplant. It's pretty much like a plant or vegetables.

Rory: Well, this is just to say what would be even less work, really. I don't have an interest in growing a house plant and then let alone the other things as well. So, compared to growing fruit and vegetables, I think a house plant is quite easy to grow, but you have to put in much more effort to grow a cucumber or a tomato. So I wouldn't put in any effort for that either. And I said, let alone, which is highlighting the fact that these things are much more difficult.

Maria: We can also say cultivate, cultivate a cucumber, cultivate a tomato, or a tomato plant, right? Cultivate or grow. When you cultivate, you take care of it, you grow it. You can say that I don't have patience for that. I don't have enough patience for growing vegetables. Usually, people grow plants, vegetables on the outskirts or in the suburbs, so, on the outskirts, but in the suburbs, not in the city, but outside the city, where you have beautiful fields, and people have special, I don't know, vegetable gardens, special spots where vegetables grow. And you can say, like people usually have plots of land or allotments. Allotments is just land?

Rory: Well, it's an area of land used for something. It's usually something small and personal.

Maria: Growing vegetables is not really popular in Scotland, in Rory’s country for some reason. So, no, but you said, like I'm not sure.

Rory: I know, I don't know either. I said it might be less common. Oh, but I used a modal verb. That's nice.
Maria: Yeah, maybe it's common, but today it's less common than before. People just go to the supermarket, and Rory has no idea, like I have no idea. It's okay to say that.

Rory: I think that's something important to highlight for any kind of topic. If you don't know, you can't just say I have no idea and then speculate, but maybe or it might be the case that...

Maria: People derive pleasure from something. You can say I derive pleasure from growing fruits. I derive pleasure from growing cucumbers, potatoes, and people in my country derive pleasure from growing vegetables, different... What do you call this? Lettuce? Herbs?

Rory: Plants?

Maria: Plants, like different green stuff that's, you know, spicy, like rosemary.

Rory: Well, I think rosemary is a herb, and things like lettuce, like a leafy plant, a leafy vegetable.

Maria: I don't see the harm in it. Should schools teach students, or should students be taught something? And you say, yes, why not? I don't see the harm in it. There's no harm in it, so I don't see any bad things in this. And children can learn about growth, how things grow, and maths, because they will calculate how much water plants need.

Rory: I suppose so. This is just when I was a primary school teacher, that's the kind of thing I would consider when I was teaching this kind of subject.

Maria: You can say that for me, growing vegetables would be a nightmare, like a total nightmare. It's not my thing. I'm a plant murderer, I kill everything, so let alone vegetables. Or, dear listener, maybe you are very good at growing stuff, so then you say, I have green fingers, which means I'm very good at growing things, I enjoy growing this and that, I enjoy cultivating this and that, but you should give specific names. So if it's lettuce, rosemary, different herbs, but please make sure you name at least three different types of vegetables, like aubergines, say something interesting, not just potatoes. What interesting vegetables do you have?

Rory: Oh my god, what do you mean by interesting vegetables? What makes a vegetable interesting?

Maria: Like less common, like broccoli, aubergine, aubergine is less common. Or maybe like Brussels sprouts.

Rory: Who is growing aubergines?

Maria: I don't know, nobody, that's why you're going to be interesting. Radish, there we go. Pumpkin, pumpkin, dear listener, you can grow pumpkin. Corn, cabbage, celery, sweet potato. So just, I mean, pick something interesting. Spinach.
Rory: Is spinach a vegetable? I thought it was a herb.

Maria: Yeah, but it's okay to say, well, herbs, vegetables. You can say growing vegetables is difficult. You might assume that it's just soil, seeds, and water, but it's way more complex. Soil is the ground, it's what a plant lives in. So I don't have the willpower. The willpower means...

Rory: Well, the motivation.

Maria: Or I do have a lot of willpower and I'm very good at growing anything. So there are people who are just good at growing. Oh, willpower, C2, band nine.

Rory: Is it?

Maria: Yeah, it is, I know. The ability to control your own thoughts and the way in which you behave. So it's when you control your thoughts and also behaviour, like it took a lot of willpower to stay calm, or I don't have the willpower to keep to a diet when they tell you not to drink Coca-Cola, but you continue drinking Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola, if you want to sponsor this podcast, feel free to contact us on our website. McDonald's, also, if you want to join in, you know. So willpower, right? So I don't have the willpower to grow anything. Or I have a lot of willpower, so I can manage.

Rory: Now we focused a lot on the vocabulary there, but shall we go back to Maria's predictions? So Maria said I would not talk about bananas, I would talk about berries, and I would talk about herbs. So let's see, I didn't talk about bananas. That's right, because why would I grow something that I don't like eating? Well done, Maria. However, any mention of any berries?

Maria: No, nothing, Rory. You give just boring answers, nothing.

Rory: Is a tomato a berry?

Maria: According to botany, yes, according to botany yes, it's a berry. But according to like usual people, it's a vegetable.

Rory: But I didn't talk about herbs. So two out of three for Maria, nicely done. What about you, dear listener? How accurate were your predictions? Did you hear any of these things? And if you didn't this time, don't worry, we'll try this in the future as well. But for now, Maria, shall we say goodbye?

Maria: Right, thank you very much for listening, and we'll get back to you in our new episode. Bye!

Rory: Bye!
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